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Illicit trade in native wildlife - witnesses Ando, Plant, Dawson, Green

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got taken out of the special <strong>in</strong>vestigations unit. I wanted no<br />

more to do with it. I was under extreme stress. I had got<br />

threats from people and all I got from my office was, "You<br />

need to deal with a counsellor", which was great, and I got a<br />

lot of respect for that but I kept my distance from it. I had<br />

my problems with Rick <strong>Dawson</strong>. We used to be great friends.<br />

We didn't see eye to eye for a while and there was - - so I<br />

just thought I'll keep clear from those situations. And<br />

that's why I was put on general duties. I didn't need any<br />

more stress <strong>in</strong> relation to any more of those sort of<br />

<strong>in</strong>vestigations. That's why I pulled out of it.<br />

MR HALL: Did you cont<strong>in</strong>ue to ma<strong>in</strong>ta<strong>in</strong> a relationship - - a<br />

friendly relationship with Phil <strong>Green</strong> after this time?---Yes.<br />

Did you meet with him follow<strong>in</strong>g the execution of this search<br />

warrant?---I - -<br />

On or about the 21st of September?---We probably met a couple<br />

of times.<br />

Did you speak to him about be<strong>in</strong>g summonsed by this Commission<br />

to give evidence at the private hear<strong>in</strong>g?---No, because I got<br />

told I'm not allowed to talk about the summons.<br />

Where did you meet him?---I don't remember.<br />

Yes.<br />

(TO COMMISSIONER): Commissioner, at this time I would ask<br />

that Mr <strong>Ando</strong> be stood down aga<strong>in</strong>. I wish to call some other<br />

<strong>witnesses</strong>.<br />

COMMISSIONER: If you'd please sit down - - stand down to the<br />

back for the moment, Mr <strong>Ando</strong>.<br />

WITNESS WITHDREW<br />

MR HALL: Can I call Mr Malcolm <strong>Plant</strong>.<br />

MALCOLM ROSS PLANT affirmed:<br />

COMMISSIONER: Right. Thank you. Please sit down, Mr <strong>Plant</strong>.<br />

EXAMINED BY MR HALL SC:<br />

MR HALL: Now, Mr <strong>Plant</strong>, as we've heard <strong>in</strong> other evidence, you<br />

are a Customs officer, I th<strong>in</strong>k?---That is correct. Yes.<br />

And what's your position with<strong>in</strong> Customs?---I'm an<br />

<strong>in</strong>vestigation officer.<br />

How long have you worked <strong>in</strong> that area <strong>in</strong> the Customs Service?-<br />

--Approximately 10½ years.<br />

23.11.04 A.G. ANDO XN 133<br />

M.R. PLANT XN

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