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Illicit trade in native wildlife - witnesses Ando, Plant, Dawson, Green

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t19/kr<br />

CCC<br />

MR HALL: But you looked for them, didn't you?---I had a look<br />

around, yeah.<br />

Yes. Now, <strong>in</strong> the end you were able to take some eggs to Mr<br />

Coll<strong>in</strong>gridge?---Yeah. I took three.<br />

Which you carried - - ?---Not from out of the wild, but - -<br />

Well, you carried them personally over to Mr Coll<strong>in</strong>gridge?---<br />

Yes.<br />

And you did that know<strong>in</strong>g that it was illegal to transport eggs<br />

to the eastern states, be they from the wild or laid by<br />

captive birds?---Yes.<br />

Now, you said you were expect<strong>in</strong>g someth<strong>in</strong>g back <strong>in</strong> return, an<br />

exotic?---Yeah, bird, yeah.<br />

Yes. Someth<strong>in</strong>g specific?---Oh, yeah. Probably macaws if they<br />

were available, yeah.<br />

A Hyac<strong>in</strong>th Macaw?---No.<br />

Hyac<strong>in</strong>th Macaws are very valuable, aren't they?---Yeah.<br />

COMMISSIONER: What's the prefix?<br />

MR HALL: A Hyac<strong>in</strong>th.<br />

COMMISSIONER: Hyac<strong>in</strong>th?<br />

MR HALL: I take it that refers to the different colours.<br />

They're different coloured birds?---Different species.<br />

I see. All right. So you were hop<strong>in</strong>g to get a macaw; did you<br />

get a macaw from - - ?---No.<br />

- - Mr Coll<strong>in</strong>gridge? Now, Mr Grissel told you on one<br />

occasion, did he not, that the reason why he could have no<br />

further deal<strong>in</strong>gs with you was that a number of couriers had<br />

been <strong>in</strong>tercepted and arrested?---Yes.<br />

And that that had <strong>in</strong> fact closed down the bus<strong>in</strong>ess that was<br />

be<strong>in</strong>g run at that po<strong>in</strong>t <strong>in</strong> time?---Yes.<br />

Now, can I play you this call, please? It's number 173, a<br />

telephone call of the 23rd of August this year.<br />

AUDIO TAPE PLAYED TO HEARING<br />

MR HALL: Mr Coll<strong>in</strong>gridge is based <strong>in</strong> Queensland I th<strong>in</strong>k, is<br />

that right?---Yeah.<br />

23.11.04 P. GREEN XN 167

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