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26 BD SUNDAY<br />
C002D5556 Sunday <strong>22</strong> <strong>Oct</strong>ober <strong>2017</strong><br />
TheWorshippers<br />
Church leaders need to take support for<br />
mission work more seriously – Rev. Ajiboye<br />
Rev. Dare Ajiboye took over the mantle of leadership as the eighth general secretary and chief executive officer of<br />
the Bible Society of Nigeria (BSN) in 2014. In this interview with Seyi John Salau, Ajiboye speaks on the journey so<br />
far, the need for church leaders to do more in supporting mission work, and the state of affairs in the polity.<br />
How has the journey been<br />
for you so far as the general<br />
secretary and chief executive<br />
officer of the Bible Society of<br />
Nigeria?<br />
If I say it has been smooth,<br />
then it is a great deceit. I<br />
came on board as the CEO<br />
specifically on 20th August,<br />
2013 when the economy<br />
of this country was good, but<br />
you would agree with me that<br />
within the last two years the<br />
economy of Nigeria has nosedived.<br />
Of course, that does not<br />
mean that the economy started<br />
nose-diving in the last two years.<br />
The negative impact that we see<br />
in our economy started long ago.<br />
Being a leader at a time as<br />
this is not an easy task: you are<br />
struggling with how to get fund<br />
to pay the salaries of staff; you<br />
are struggling with how to even<br />
bring in the Bible, which is the<br />
core activity that we do. It simply<br />
means that to translate the<br />
Bible to different languages is<br />
becoming very difficult. But the<br />
economy is affecting the donors<br />
and by extension affecting us because<br />
we are not getting enough<br />
funds again. Besides that, we are<br />
finding it difficult to get dollar<br />
to bring in published translated<br />
Bibles because in Nigeria today,<br />
for me, there is no printing press<br />
that can handle the quantity and<br />
quality of the Bibles we bring in.<br />
And if we have to rely on dollar,<br />
how do we go about getting<br />
these dollars?<br />
Again, our roads are in a bad<br />
shape adding to the cost of leadership.<br />
If you come in through<br />
Western Avenue to our office<br />
here in Apapa, you can see how<br />
bad the roads are and we have to<br />
bring in our vehicles every day.<br />
And some of these vehicles are<br />
heavily loaded. We spend the<br />
little money we get to fix the<br />
vehicles with which the Bibles<br />
are delivered.<br />
Leadership has to do with<br />
leading people. I must say that<br />
I used to think I understood<br />
leadership, having led at various<br />
departmental levels in school as<br />
the president of the fellowship<br />
and leading in the various arms<br />
of the church. Within the last<br />
four years I want to tell you that<br />
I now know what leadership is<br />
all about. Leadership is a difficult<br />
thing. You even blame leaders<br />
for not taking your suggestions<br />
but looking at it holistically, I<br />
know why some decisions are<br />
not taken. Again, it is not an easy<br />
task to be able to bring people<br />
Dare Ajiboye<br />
to your life to see and run with<br />
the vision and probably still run<br />
with that vision when you leave.<br />
I have also seen that leadership<br />
involves relying on God, I have<br />
seen challenges within these<br />
four years and if God had not<br />
called me to BSN, I would have<br />
felt like going back and just leaving<br />
the job. Sometimes I tell God,<br />
‘But I prayed to you before applying<br />
for this job and accepting<br />
it. You gave me this job, I did not<br />
lobby for it and I did not want<br />
to apply even after you told me<br />
to apply for it.’ With the help of<br />
God I have been given solutions<br />
to them by God, though it has<br />
not been easy, especially in a<br />
time of economic recession. To<br />
be candid, God has been faithful.<br />
What can you tell us about<br />
the projects being executed by<br />
BSN?<br />
BSN has translated the Bible<br />
into 24 Nigerian languages and<br />
we also have two that have<br />
been completed. We are only<br />
waiting for funding that God<br />
would provide to publish Okrika<br />
and Kalabari Bible. The two<br />
languages are spoken in Rivers<br />
State. We are trusting God for<br />
funding. Currently we have<br />
10 translations ongoing; one<br />
of them is my own language,<br />
Okun. It is a language spoken<br />
in about five local government<br />
areas in Kogi and Kwara States<br />
and some local government<br />
areas in Ekiti State. So it is a<br />
vast language. Though it is<br />
not spoken the same way in<br />
these places, we understand<br />
ourselves. We are also working<br />
on Epie and Ogbia languages<br />
which are spoken in Bayelsa<br />
State, and we also have other<br />
languages. But in total we have<br />
10 Nigerian languages that we<br />
are working on. It costs about<br />
a minimum of N44 million to<br />
translate the Bible into a language,<br />
that is why we ask for<br />
funds from Christians who are<br />
willing to support us.<br />
Earlier you spoke about<br />
funding for your activities. How<br />
has the support been like since<br />
you came onboard?<br />
I must say this is one of the<br />
major challenges that we are<br />
facing. Some churches feel we<br />
are competing with them. Some<br />
do not see BSN as adding any<br />
value to Christendom and this<br />
has been a major concern. They<br />
use the Bible, have branches in<br />
the rural area where they use<br />
the Bible in indigenous translations<br />
– Efik, Tiv, etc – yet they do<br />
not see us as relevant. We even<br />
try to educate them but they<br />
are more concerned about doing<br />
their own things. Yes, it is a good<br />
thing to have structures, mammoth<br />
crowd following us, but<br />
without the Bible there would be<br />
no church in the first place. And<br />
if there is no church there would<br />
be no pastors, and that is why I<br />
expect church leaders to take<br />
support for BSN with seriousness.<br />
We thank God for the few<br />
that are supporting us, whereas<br />
some do not even want to see us.<br />
I must say that The Apostolic<br />
Church, even when we go there<br />
and they sight us, they would<br />
announce our presence. They<br />
have been helpful. Christ Apostolic<br />
Church, Mountain of<br />
Fire and Miracles, The Baptist<br />
Church and ECWA are great supporters<br />
of BSN. Even some with<br />
all formality still do not want to<br />
see us because they think we are<br />
coming to beg from them. But I<br />
keep saying this to everybody<br />
that cares to listen: God has<br />
called me and I do not need to<br />
be a beggar to do this job. I do not<br />
need money for myself. Even if<br />
I have any personal challenge, I<br />
talk to God about it and thank<br />
God he has been taking care of<br />
my personal challenges. I have<br />
never begged. But the BSN needs<br />
the support of these leaders and<br />
they should know that without<br />
the Bible there would be no<br />
church and without church<br />
there would be no pastor. They<br />
use the word of God to preach,<br />
teach and grow their members.<br />
Then they should begin to think<br />
about how to support Bible<br />
translations.<br />
Away from the BSN now.<br />
The President Muhammadu<br />
Buhari administration seems<br />
to have fallen short of its campaign<br />
promises to Nigerians,<br />
which has resulted in calls for<br />
resignation in some quarters.<br />
Are the electorate right to have<br />
made such call?<br />
I do not know about what they<br />
mean by incompetence. To me<br />
competence is a combination of<br />
skills that leaders need to influence<br />
others to get positive result.<br />
So competence is a component of<br />
the type of knowledge, skill and<br />
attitude. When people voted for<br />
him, I think they believed he had<br />
the competence to lead. I agree<br />
that Nigerians ought to have got<br />
something better even from the<br />
present government, but people<br />
should not also forget that leadership<br />
is sequential. Somebody<br />
stayed 100 years and people who<br />
come after build on what they<br />
met. When the colonial masters<br />
handed power to us, things were<br />
not like this; those who took over<br />
after them were not selfish, but<br />
gradually things started changing,<br />
even Jonathan must have<br />
inherited challenges as well as<br />
Buhari and these challenges may<br />
be overwhelming, and people<br />
looking at it want quick fixes. If<br />
we want Nigeria to be better, then<br />
we cannot have quick fixes; it<br />
would take time, though what we<br />
want to see is not talking about<br />
the past again.<br />
As far as I am concerned, a<br />
leader should be less concerned<br />
about the negative things the<br />
predecessor did but know that<br />
he or she has been brought to<br />
leadership to do well. So they<br />
should stop talking about the<br />
past. Managers do not change<br />
situations but maintain status<br />
quo, but leaders influence<br />
changes, make things better no<br />
matter how bad the situation is;<br />
they do not make things static.<br />
Another thing is that you<br />
might have competency but may<br />
not have the right people around<br />
you. He might be handicapped<br />
in making some laws because it<br />
has to go through the lower and<br />
higher chamber which at the<br />
end of the day might take three<br />
years and he is handicapped<br />
and cannot do anything. If the<br />
judiciary and legislature arms do<br />
not have the competent people<br />
to help the executive, then we<br />
are wasting time. At this time<br />
we cannot ask him to resign<br />
because we voted him there and<br />
we would be disappointed if he<br />
resigns because we thought he<br />
could do it; so we are praying for<br />
him for good health and competencies<br />
to carry on. It is only by<br />
him succeeding that we would<br />
succeed. I encourage people to<br />
stop castigating, especially from<br />
a narrow perspective.