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and then you would be able to play any part you

wanted. Why won’t you let Eugene bring out

the real Bette Davis all over again?

(Laughing) No, as much as I love him and I know

he can do extraordinary things, I won’t do it. It’s true

you can look much younger than you do, more so certainly

than getting up at dawn and looking in the

mirror. There are magic things, you can go and have

your facelifted, but with a career as long as mine who

am I kidding? Then to me, there is such an overemphasis

in our country, that nobody is anything unless

they’re just unlined, beautiful, skinny, smelling great.

You know, sincerely, I think one should grow old the

way one should grow old.

Why did you reveal all those intimate details

about yourself and others in your book?

I didn’t reveal any of the intimate things in my life.

About ten more people have to be dead. You see I don’t

believe in really intimate things, but I do believe one

thing and that is that you must tell in your book things

that haven’t been in the press. The average biography

or autobiography of motion picture people you read

in the newspapers for a thousand years and they tell

you nothing more, and therefore you learn nothing

about the person. I never ever hurt anybody in that

book by being too intimate. I never told the whole story

of anything because I didn’t believe in it, and I wouldn’t

want my children to read it if I had to write it. Or perhaps

you’re talking about how hard I was on myself. If

you’re not rough on yourself in an autobiography, you

cannot be rough on anybody else. And it’s a very fine

line, things that I wanted to really praise myself for the

most, modesty did prevent. That’s for somebody else

to write. One day I’ll write an intimate book.

Then come and see me again, Couri.

The Oscars have come under a lot of fire lately;

exactly what do you think the benefit of winning

it is?

The biggest thrill of your life, when your own industry,

when the people you work with honor you, anybody

who can stand up there and receive one of those nice

young men Oscars and not be thrilled is dead. Really,

inside they have lost enthusiasm, they’ve lost everything.

You have said that you don’t like yourself, have

you or did you grow to like yourself more as your

career progressed?

Success helps you, personally, privately. I never did

like myself very much. And I think a lot of actors enjoy

character parts because they can be other people; it

must be something like this. For all the characters I’ve

played I must have hated myself. I never was terribly

fond of myself; I still am not terribly fond of myself.

You often play roles that are very wicked ladies,

bad girls.

It’s a very divided career in this, honestly, about fiftyfifty.

But people remember wickedness more than they

remember goodness, newspapers couldn’t sell a copy

with all good news. People are fascinated by wickedness,

but oh so many. Now, Voyager, Dark Victory were

all charming, basically normal people. I always wondered

why I enjoyed playing wicked parts, but interestingly

there is more to play because there’s something

so definite. That was one thing I always believed about

it; I always tried to make you see why they had become

such wicked people. That’s very important, there has

to be a reason, nobody is just wicked.

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