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Chef Daniel Boulud with chefs Guy Gateau, Gaston Lenôtre, Roger Vergé and Paul Bocuse at a charity event in Miami, 1983.

Westbury, Plaza-Athenée, Le Cirque, I met many artists of

the time, including Andy Warhol. But then when I opened

DANIEL, I met Leo Castelli. I opened the restaurant [in

1993] at Les Pleiades, it had been the most famous restaurant

for artists’ gatherings. Les Pleiades was the rendezvous of

the entire art world – artists, dealers, clients - because

Sotheby’s was across the street where now Gagosian is. The

‘70s and ‘80s they [Les Pleiades] were basically fed by the

art world. Leo Castelli was holding court every day there,

with all the great American artists.

Then a friend of mine, Annie Cohen-Salal, do you know

her?

JGC: Yes, you mentioned Annie Cohen-Solal, the French

historian and writer. Her book, Painting American: The

Rise of American Artists, Paris 1867-New York 1948, was

published in 2001. She had the book party at DANIEL with

you?

DB: Oui, we held her book party at DANIEL – a lunch. I

have never seen so many artists together at once as on that

day. I wish I could have asked each one of them to sign my

jacket!

“Food is a Form of Art”

JGC: Let’s discuss what art and food mean to you;

how do they intersect and combine?

DB: Well, I think there is no artist that is not sensitive to

art in a restaurant or in the kitchen. I think food is a form

of art, for sure. It’s definitely a way of transforming and

creating. You know art can be done in many ways, but it’s

often layering something to find the harmony. You want

to find the balance. You want to find creativity as to be

unique, and yet it has to be understood - or, maybe not

understood - but enjoyed for the fact that everyone has his

own appreciation and

interpretation of it.

I think with food sometimes

“MY REAL DREAM

there is a little bit of that. There

ONE DAY WILL BE TO

are certain things that are

BUILD A STUDIO FOR

obviously universally liked the

MYSELF, AND MAYBE

same way, and there are some

PAINT FOR MYSELF.”

things that are not always liked

for the same reason or [in] the

same way, by people, but still are appreciated for the creativity

and artistry in it.

JGC: That’s an elegant way of putting it.

DB: Yes, I feel that it is very much like that. And, you know,

even the composition of seasoning, the composition of

texture. You know in food it is not all about the color, but

more about the layers of taste, and the contrast in those

layers, from crunchy, to gooey, to salty, to crunchy.

I think in art, the longer you look at a painting, the more

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