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VOL. 8, NO. 2 SUMMER <strong>2023</strong><br />

Now Let’s Try To<br />

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CONTENTS<br />

One More<br />

Thing.......................... 3<br />

All Abouth<br />

That Stain ................. 4<br />

Innovations .............. 6<br />

Pinto or Porsce ......... 7<br />

Industry<br />

Dirt............................. 10<br />

IDA<br />

Column..................... 18<br />

Dr.<br />

Detail.......................... 18<br />

Hello, friends, and happy summer.<br />

ONE MORE<br />

THING<br />

The winter and even the spring was brutal here in Upstate New York, so I am happy to have the sun shining<br />

overhead. I know in the last issue of Auto Detailing News I wrote about the passings of Chris Evans and<br />

Daryl Lyons, two industry magnates who were always so kind to me. I have had the pleasure of getting to know<br />

Chris’s partner, Jaqueline Hawkins. Jaqueline is an amazing person, and through her grief, has been able to<br />

help others. “Thank you so much for helping us share this information. Yes, missing him is hard but this labor<br />

of love is a great distraction,” she wrote to me. So, in her honor, and in Chris’s memory, I would like to use the<br />

forum to promote his charity.<br />

The Christopher Evans Foundation is designed to educate individuals in the best practices in detailing, vehicle appearance improvements<br />

(window tinting, paint protection film, paint correction, etc.), and safety on the job site. The Foundation focuses primarily<br />

on training at-risk youth and returning citizens on Chicago’s South and West sides, and preparing them for entry level employment<br />

or the opportunity to become an entrepreneur; and/or expand their service offerings.<br />

For more information, please contact his friend and mentor<br />

Robert “Bob” Wrasman atrobertwrasman@gmail.com.<br />

Until next time,<br />

Meeting of<br />

the Minds.................. 23<br />

Where is the industry<br />

headed, Part 1<br />

CALENDAR OF EVENTS<br />

VOL. 8, NO. 2 | SUMMER <strong>2023</strong><br />

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Editor: Debra Gorgos<br />

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VOL. 8, NO.2 • SUMMER <strong>2023</strong> | AUTO DETAILING NEWS | 3


ALL<br />

ABOUT<br />

THAT<br />

STAIN<br />

Blood<br />

There is an emotional and physical<br />

toll a blood-stained interior can have<br />

on a car detailer. From a spot to a large<br />

amount can be unnerving. Also, the removable<br />

process can be challenging. But,<br />

why? Why is blood so hard to remove?<br />

Here is your answer.<br />

Serum?!<br />

Proteins?!<br />

Yes, that and more. Blood contains<br />

both liquid (plasma and serum) and solids<br />

(red blood cells, white blood cells,<br />

platelets and proteins), according to the<br />

National Forensic Science Technology<br />

Center (NFSTC).<br />

We all know that when blood leaves<br />

a body, it is in liquid form. But, then<br />

the blood starts to clot, forming a solid<br />

surface. The way blood clots is great<br />

for personal injuries, however that clotting<br />

is part of why it stains materials so<br />

well. “Except for people with hemophilia,<br />

blood will begin to clot within a few<br />

minutes, forming a dark, shiny gel-like<br />

substance that grows more solid as time<br />

progresses,” stated the NFSTC.<br />

Here are the ways<br />

detailers have<br />

removed blood stains.<br />

Back in 2015, Scott Gray, owner of<br />

Soapy’s Auto Wash in Idaho Falls, Idaho,<br />

shared: One of the worst stains we ever<br />

tackled was from a guy who had a minivan<br />

and had shot and killed a deer in Texas.<br />

…He successfully cut up and put the<br />

deer into a large cooler that he sat on the<br />

rear passenger seat for the three-hour trip<br />

from Texas to Idaho. The small drain plug<br />

in the cooler was accidentally left open.<br />

The blood from the meat then drained<br />

onto the seat and the floor throughout the<br />

three-hour drive home. …Blood ended<br />

up draining through the seat fabric and<br />

all the way into the foam cushion.<br />

Gray shared that they had to remove<br />

the seat cover to extract the blood out of<br />

the cover and the underlying foam cushion,<br />

which the blood had seeped into. “We<br />

had to do multiple flushes on the foam<br />

cushion. We then gave it a heavy dose of<br />

odor eliminator and a healthy dose of<br />

ozone and put it back together. The carpets<br />

were also soaked with blood so a good bit<br />

of extraction was needed there. We used<br />

some odor neutralizer during the process<br />

and then gave it a healthy dose of ozone.”<br />

A user on carwashforum.com shared<br />

with Auto Detailing News his steps in removing<br />

blood due to a self-inflicted gunshot wound,<br />

back in 2016, he shared: There was a bulge<br />

in the roof from the bullet. Hair with "pineapple<br />

brain parts” attached. Pieces of skull<br />

and hair. Tons of blood.<br />

“We dressed in full body protection<br />

goggles, trash bags and respirators. The<br />

first step was to clean everything with<br />

COLD water first. This is normally backwards<br />

but when cleaning blood, you want<br />

cold water first so the temperature of the<br />

blood is below body temperature and can't<br />

carry any disease. So cold water extraction<br />

and cold water rinsing (without splattering)<br />

the entire interior was first, and then<br />

we started over with the normal procedure:<br />

Detergent, solvent, then hot water<br />

extraction, steam, and all your normal<br />

steps.” He then said they stayed fully covered<br />

in rain suits, trash bags, even welders<br />

face masks and helmets until all of the<br />

blowing of steam, air, and water was completed.<br />

“Then a medical product from the<br />

local janitorial/custodial supply killed any<br />

living blood-born diseases,” he shared.<br />

The vehicle went on to be used by a<br />

family member. “Of course,” he shared,<br />

“a tremendous amount of rinsing was necessary,<br />

under carpets and the interior, so if<br />

you live in a dry desert climate like Utah, it<br />

is an advantage because water evaporates<br />

and dries out quickly. I think in humid environments,<br />

like the coasts, the job would<br />

take a few days, but we are able to do it in<br />

five hours, along with six other normal jobs<br />

that day.” The hardest part, he said, is just<br />

mentally preparing yourself in the beginning.<br />

“You have to look at blood and brain<br />

pieces and it took me an hour of talking to<br />

myself and looking at it as a job and sort of<br />

mentally blocking out the idea of it being<br />

blood, piss, crap and skull and brain parts.<br />

Getting mentally prepared was and is the<br />

hardest part of these jobs. Then the sweat<br />

of the protective gear is the next hardest<br />

part. Also having to start all over with a normal<br />

detail after the initial detailing. Then,<br />

the final hardest part might is the customer<br />

picking up the vehicle. Emotions are involved<br />

and people can be very touchy when<br />

their spouse is gone. It can be intense.”<br />

4 | AUTO DETAILING NEWS | VOL. 8, NO. 2 • SUMMER <strong>2023</strong>


INNOVATIONS<br />

Introducing new & improved products for professional auto, boat & motorcycle detailers.<br />

Detailing forum<br />

Auto Detailing News magazine has<br />

introduced a new online forum for<br />

detailers. Prodetailerforum.com is the<br />

central hub where professional detailers<br />

around the country can network,<br />

learn, trouble-shoot, get business operation/marketing<br />

advice, train, and<br />

share their experiences cleaning cars,<br />

motorcycles, boats... you-name-it.<br />

"A well-executed forum's utility<br />

value surpasses other social media platforms<br />

due to its organizational accessibility<br />

structured around specific topics/questions,<br />

and its efficient, archive<br />

searchability."<br />

Detailers are encouraged to visit<br />

and register at www.prodetailerforum.<br />

com. Forum participants are automatically<br />

entered into monthly drawings<br />

for supplies (see ads in this issue.)<br />

Detailing dictionary<br />

Detailers Dictionary Volume 2: The Industry Standard<br />

is the follow-up to the successful Detailer<br />

Dictory: Detailers Little Black Book, by the late<br />

and great Christoper Evans. Detailers Dictiornary<br />

Volumn 2 is easy to understand, offers up:<br />

• Countless definitions and terminology<br />

• Photos of the latest industry tools and<br />

products.<br />

• Facts and tips to make detailers more<br />

efficient<br />

• Charts explaining various industry issues.<br />

• Customized quizzes to test a detailer’s<br />

knowledge of detailing<br />

Solvent-based tire dressing<br />

Malco ® Products, Inc. of Barberton, Ohio, announced the introduction of KO<br />

Solvent-Based Tire Dressing to the Malco Automotive line of professional detailing<br />

products. This cost-effective, ready-to-use solvent-based, silicone dressing is ideal for<br />

use on tires, moldings, dashboards, door panels, bumpers, and vinyl floor mats. This<br />

new dressing is VOC compliant and helps keep tires and vehicle surfaces looking “likenew.”<br />

“KO Solvent-Based Tire Dressing beautifies tires, dashboards, door panels, and<br />

more with a quality finish at a great value,” said Mike Goldstein, Malco Global Product<br />

Manager. “KO Solvent-Based Tire Dressing rounds out our line of KO products and<br />

offers customers a cost-effective dressing that gets the job done.” KO Solvent-Based Tire<br />

Dressing is VOC compliant and can be sold in all 50 States. The ready-touse formula<br />

can be sprayed onto tires or wiped on with an applicator, leaving a nice, even finish. The<br />

product is available in a 5-gallon size from Malco distributors.<br />

6 | AUTO DETAILING NEWS | VOL. 8, NO. 2 • SUMMER <strong>2023</strong><br />

Car cleaning accessory<br />

Hozeez, by Bishop Innovations, is the solution to the age old problem of trying to wash the<br />

car without the hose getting stuck under the tires. It is easy to use and durable. Simply drop<br />

the Hozeez on the ground and kick it under the tire. No careful placement is required. Due to<br />

its unique patent pending design, it actually gets pulled more tightly under the tire when the<br />

hose pulls against it, instead of being pulled out like cheap competitive products. When done<br />

washing the car, simply rinse the Hozeez off and toss them in your car wash bucket for storage.<br />

Hozeez is molded in high visibility yellow plastic so you can’t miss it when putting away<br />

the rags and buckets. If you do forget it’s under the tire, no problem – Hozeez is tough tested.<br />

For most situations, a pair of Hozeez will allow you to pull the hose around the car without<br />

it getting stuck, though some people still like to use four.<br />

Bishop Innovations is a family-owned business which produces all of its products in America.


FUN AND<br />

GAMES<br />

Which<br />

one is the:<br />

Porsche<br />

or Pinto?<br />

It's no secret that detailers know their cars. But,<br />

let's put the skills to the test. Can you tell the make,<br />

model and year of each vehicle posted below?<br />

Answers are on the bottom of the page. Good luck!<br />

1 2 3 4 5 6 7<br />

1. 2021 AUDI Q5 2. 2019 CHRYSLER PACIFICA 3. 2017 FORD KING RANCH 4. 2021 HONDA PILOT 5. 2018 JEEP CHEROKEE 6. 2014 TOYOTA CAMRY 7. <strong>2023</strong> DODGE RAM<br />

VOL. 8, NO.2 • SUMMER <strong>2023</strong> | AUTO DETAILING NEWS | 7


DETAIL<br />

DOCTOR<br />

Do the Safety Checks!<br />

Make sure you’re taking all of the necessary<br />

precautions when it comes to chemicals<br />

Bud Abraham is Founder and President Emeritus of DETAIL PLUS Car Appearance Systems, with more than 40 years<br />

of experience in the car care industry as a manufacturer, operator, distributor and consultant. He writes articles and gives<br />

seminars on the subject of auto detailing throughout the automotive industry. He can be reached at buda@detailplus.com.<br />

By Bud Abraham, The Detail Doctor<br />

buda@detailplus.com<br />

This article will deal with safety tips<br />

that are often overlooked or ignored by<br />

detailers that can protect you, your workers<br />

and reduce risks in the detail business.<br />

When working with cleaning chemicals,<br />

it’s the little things that trip you up,<br />

the big things are obvious, such as reading<br />

product instructions and making sure<br />

products are properly labeled. It’s the little<br />

things, such as using the proper dilution,<br />

that are sometimes not so obvious and can<br />

cause problems for detailers.<br />

Read the SDS and the<br />

Instructions Label<br />

Let’s start with the more obvious<br />

tips. Just because these best practices seem<br />

like no-brainers, it doesn’t mean everyone<br />

follows them. It seems that once a detail<br />

business owner has been at it a while, or<br />

the detailers have been on the job a few<br />

months, many mistakenly think they no<br />

longer need to read product instructions.<br />

No matter how long you’ve been at it,<br />

you need to read the labels. As a business<br />

owner, do it in front of your employees<br />

and then quiz them on the safety and<br />

product instructions.<br />

Always start a cleaning job by reading<br />

the product instructions, then follow up<br />

by following the instructions.<br />

Always Avoid Mixing<br />

Chemicals<br />

Jokingly, many in the industry call<br />

detailers “mixologists.” That is, without<br />

a degree in chemistry they believe they<br />

know more than a degreed chemist when<br />

it comes to making chemicals.<br />

But this is a very serious mistake that<br />

can cause both physical harm and damage<br />

to vehicles. Mixing incompatible chemicals<br />

is a big no-no. Did you know that mixing<br />

chlorine bleach with ammonia or an acidic<br />

cleaner will inadvertently create a poisonous<br />

gas that should not be inhaled?<br />

Detailers are famous for mixing up<br />

their own cleaning concoctions, but if you<br />

mix the wrong products, you can create<br />

some toxic gasses.<br />

Detailers will often mix the degreaser<br />

with the disinfectant and a little bleach to<br />

make what they are cleaning even cleaner.<br />

As a business owner you must train your<br />

employees not to do that, even though it’s<br />

an ongoing struggle.<br />

This lack of label-reading and misguided<br />

mixing are the two most common<br />

cleaning chemical mistakes committed<br />

by far too many in the detailing industry.<br />

Continue reading for more information<br />

on mistakes that can make a big difference<br />

in both safety and cleaning effectiveness.<br />

Measure Carefully<br />

REMEMBER: Chemical dilution<br />

instructions are not suggestions, they are<br />

instructions to ensure a product works as<br />

intended. Measure out the exact amount<br />

of product and water specified on the<br />

label rather than following the glug-glug<br />

technique of freehand pouring.<br />

Far too many in the industry think,<br />

“just a little bit more will do wonders.”<br />

The reality is that using a bit more doesn’t<br />

help. For example, put too much dishwashing<br />

soap in a bowl of water and then<br />

put your hands in the solution. You will<br />

immediately feel how sticky it is and find<br />

you’re having a difficult time getting it off<br />

your hands without several rinsings. This<br />

exercise will help you realize that using a<br />

solution with too much cleaning product<br />

will add a film to surfaces that will be difficult<br />

to remove and will leave a sticky film<br />

that attracts more soil.<br />

Not only is using the wrong dilution<br />

inefficient and expensive, it also can be<br />

harmful to health.<br />

Chemicals are manufactured so they<br />

rinse freely. If you use them at two times<br />

their recommended strength, the film<br />

they leave can attract dirt or pathogens.<br />

If you use a dilution that is too weak, it<br />

won’t clean the surface or eliminate any<br />

pathogens it was created to kill.<br />

You should have a measuring cup or<br />

spray bottle with measuring increments<br />

readily available for you and your workers<br />

to use. Better yet, purchase a dilution<br />

station that automatically dispenses chemicals<br />

at the correct dilution. If you purchase<br />

enough chemicals from a supplier they<br />

may provide one at no cost. In any case<br />

they will pay for themselves in the long run.<br />

Temperature is<br />

Important<br />

Few detailers realize that the water<br />

temperature, when diluting cleaning<br />

chemicals is important. It is estimated that<br />

warm water can increase the cleaning capability<br />

of a chemical by 10% to 15%.<br />

While this is true for most chemicals,<br />

many products do require mixing them<br />

with cold water in the chemical bonded<br />

to the solution.<br />

Using the Correct<br />

Product<br />

Another overlooked process, that far<br />

too many in the detail business overlook,<br />

is choosing the right chemical for the job.<br />

To save money or from plain ignorance<br />

some detailers use some chemicals to do<br />

a job they’re not made for. For example<br />

using your engine degreaser as the go-to<br />

product for engines, wheels, tires, carpets,<br />

vinyl/leather, etc. Of course, an aggressive<br />

product like an engine degreaser will<br />

work as most contain ‘sodium hydroxide,<br />

which is an aggressive caustic that<br />

is formulated to ‘burn soil’ off of a surface.<br />

That might work for an engine, but<br />

imagine what it can do to wheels, carpets,<br />

leather, etc? On the other hand, when using<br />

too weak a product the detailer will<br />

have to scrub too aggressively, which can<br />

damage the surface, not to mention exhausting<br />

the arms and muscles.<br />

Choosing the right chemical often means<br />

choosing more than one. While it may be ok<br />

to use pH-neutral products for any number<br />

of reasons, in many cases a stronger product<br />

will be necessary to clean the particular<br />

surface. In short, using neutral pH solutions<br />

all the time will not remove stains and soils.<br />

Plus, these products tempt staff to scrub too<br />

hard or use steel wool scrub brushes, which<br />

can damage surfaces.<br />

Clean Equipment<br />

After Every Use<br />

Do you empty your extractor regularly,<br />

flushing out dirt and grime? Do you<br />

clean brushes and especially your buffing<br />

pads? Many a paint finish gets swirled or<br />

marred from dirty buffing pads.<br />

8 | AUTO DETAILING NEWS | VOL. 8, NO. 2 • SUMMER <strong>2023</strong>


To give you an idea of how awful the<br />

solution in an extractor can be, take a look<br />

at the mop bucket in a supermarket that<br />

is used to clean up spills. The solution<br />

looks like chocolate milk and probably<br />

contains all kinds of harmful bacteria. A<br />

dirty cleaning solution that is allowed to sit<br />

can breed pathogens. Therefore, empty all<br />

buckets and equipment recovery tanks and<br />

rinse them out after each use, no matter<br />

how small the cleaning job. Otherwise, the<br />

next time you use the bucket or extractor<br />

you’ll be spreading biofilm full of germs.<br />

All of this information is being shared<br />

to protect you and If I can help you answer<br />

any questions or concerns, feel free to<br />

reach me at: buda1940@outlook.com or<br />

(503)-816-7304.<br />

DON’T MIX THIS<br />

According to a report by the Environmental<br />

Working Group, back in November<br />

2018, a manager of a Buffalo Wild Wings<br />

in Massachusetts died after he inhaled a<br />

mix of cleaners that contained acid and<br />

bleach. The deadly fumes were created after<br />

two products, Scale Kleen and Super<br />

8, were combined while he was cleaning<br />

a kitchen floor. The mixture, according to<br />

the report, quickly turned green, started<br />

to bubble and the fumes overpowered the<br />

worker as he attempted to dispose of the<br />

noxious liquid outside into a drain.<br />

Ten other workers and patrons were<br />

sickened as a result of the fumes.<br />

“Workers that clean for a living or<br />

clean as part of their job duties are disproportionately<br />

exposed to hazardous<br />

chemicals because they handle these<br />

cleaning products more frequently – often<br />

constantly throughout the day. As a result,<br />

they suffer elevated rates of debilitating<br />

injuries and illnesses. Scientific literature<br />

and clinical data show a link between exposure<br />

to conventional cleaning products<br />

and exacerbating or causing costly health<br />

conditions requiring medical evaluation<br />

and treatment – like chronic skin rashes<br />

or asthma,” the report stated.<br />

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chemical manufacturers, distributors, or importers to<br />

provide Safety Data Sheets (SDSs) (formerly known as<br />

Material Safety Data Sheets or MSDSs) to communicate<br />

the hazards of hazardous chemical products. The HCS<br />

requires new SDSs to be in a uniform format, and include<br />

the section numbers, the headings, and associated<br />

information under the headings below:<br />

Section 1, Identification includes product identifier;<br />

manufacturer or distributor name, address, phone<br />

number; emergency phone number; recommended use;<br />

restrictions on use.<br />

Section 2, Hazard(s) identification includes all hazards<br />

regarding the chemical; required label elements.<br />

Section 3, Composition/information on ingredients<br />

includes information on chemical ingredients; trade secret<br />

claims.<br />

Section 4, First-aid measures includes important symptoms/effects,<br />

acute, delayed; required treatment.<br />

Section 5, Fire-fighting measures lists suitable extinguishing<br />

techniques, equipment; chemical hazards from fire.<br />

Section 6, Accidental release measures lists emergency<br />

procedures; protective equipment; proper methods of<br />

containment and cleanup.<br />

Section 7, Handling and storage lists precautions for safe<br />

handling and storage, including incompatibilities.<br />

(Continued on other side)<br />

For more information:<br />

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exposure limit used or recommended by the chemical<br />

manufacturer, importer, or employer preparing the SDS<br />

where available as well as appropriate engineering<br />

controls; personal protective equipment (PPE).<br />

Section 9, Physical and chemical properties lists the<br />

chemical’s characteristics.<br />

Section 10, Stability and reactivity lists chemical stability<br />

and possibility of hazardous reactions.<br />

Section 11, Toxicological information includes routes of<br />

exposure; related symptoms, acute and chronic effects;<br />

numerical measures of toxicity.<br />

Section 12, Ecological information*<br />

Section 13, Disposal considerations*<br />

Section 14, Transport information*<br />

Section 15, Regulatory information*<br />

Section 16, Other information, includes the date of<br />

preparation or last revision.<br />

*Note: Since other Agencies regulate this information,<br />

OSHA will not be enforcing Sections 12 through 15<br />

(29 CFR 1910.1200(g)(2)).<br />

Employers must ensure that SDSs are readily accessible<br />

to employees.<br />

See Appendix D of 29 CFR 1910.1200 for a detailed<br />

description of SDS contents.<br />

For more information:<br />

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INDUSTRY<br />

NEWS<br />

All the news and dirt concerning detailing<br />

businesses, suppliers, events and industry icons.<br />

Business named<br />

Top place to work<br />

in South Florida<br />

Mint Eco Car Wash and Detailing Center<br />

of Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, was<br />

named a <strong>2023</strong> Top Workplaces in South<br />

Florida by The Sun Sentinel, according to a<br />

May 23 report.<br />

The Sun Sentinel's annual South Florida<br />

Top Workplaces award is given to companies<br />

that create a positive and supportive workplace<br />

culture, the story said. “The award is<br />

based solely on anonymous employee feedback<br />

gathered through a third-party survey<br />

administered by technology partner Energage<br />

LLC. Mint Eco was acknowledged for<br />

its commitment to employee development,<br />

recognition, and engagement.”<br />

CEO Geoff Jervis said in a statement,<br />

"We are proud to have been named a Top<br />

Workplace by the Sun Sentinel. We believe<br />

that our most valuable advantage is organizational<br />

health and the positive workplace<br />

that it creates. This award is an important<br />

validation that our critical employee relationship<br />

is strong and healthy."<br />

According to the story, Mint Eco prides<br />

itself on putting culture first, with its primary<br />

focus on the employees.<br />

"We exist to make people happy,” is the<br />

company’s mission statement. And, that<br />

starts by having happy employees, stated<br />

Jervis. "While other car washes are providing<br />

a service, we endeavor to provide not<br />

only the same or better service, but also an<br />

experience. This experience is delivered in<br />

large part by our employees."<br />

In Worthington, South Dakota,<br />

Miguel Zavala has opened up<br />

South of the Border Mobile Auto<br />

Detailing for business, according<br />

to a May 1 Globe report.<br />

“I’ve always been a big car guy. I’ve<br />

owned a lot of different sporty cars and<br />

I’ve always been very clean with my vehicles,”<br />

Zavala said in the story. “I’ve always<br />

liked cleaning cars and it made me feel<br />

good when it was all clean and shiny.”<br />

Zavala’s older brother worked in the<br />

service department at a local Chevrolet<br />

dealership and got Zavala his first job as<br />

a detailer.<br />

Border Mobile opened up back in January<br />

and Zavala is continuously busy. He<br />

prides himself of using a generator so<br />

that he doesn’t use any of his customers’<br />

water or electricity. don’t use any of the<br />

customer’s water or electricity,” Zavala<br />

said. He also works seven days a week.<br />

“I think about people who work the<br />

third or overnight shift,” he said in the<br />

story. “If they ever need a car done on<br />

the weekend, I’m there — I’m available.”<br />

Alleged auto detailer<br />

arrested for fraud<br />

A woman alledging to own a detail<br />

shop is going to prison for fraudulently<br />

receiving more than $15,000 in<br />

COVID-19 relief funds, The Spokemas-Review<br />

reported. According to the<br />

May 15 story, Natasha Ann Opsal, 41,<br />

was sentenced to six months in prison<br />

after pleading guilty to making false and<br />

fraudulent claims after obtaining three<br />

Payment Protection Program (PPP)<br />

loans in 2021.<br />

“According to court documents and<br />

proceedings, Opsal obtained the loans<br />

for an ‘alleged auto detailing company to<br />

obtain COVID-19 financing,’” a release<br />

from the U.S. Attorney’s Office stated.<br />

Now, Opsal must keep her job and<br />

pay back all the money when she is released<br />

from prison.<br />

U.S. Attorney Vanessa R. Waldref<br />

established a COVID-19 “fraud strike<br />

force” in February 2022 to prosecute<br />

such crimes in Eastern Washington, the<br />

story said.<br />

“COVID-19 utilities are designed to<br />

uplift our community during a crisis,<br />

and due to the number of people and<br />

businesses requesting funding, some<br />

deserving small businesses were unable<br />

to get funding to keep their businesses<br />

running,” Waldref stated in the story.<br />

“We created the Strike Force to ensure<br />

that those who misused COVID-19 relief<br />

funding are held accountable and<br />

to protect the strength and safety of our<br />

vital small business community.”<br />

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Health Digest warns<br />

customers about the<br />

dangers of dirty cars<br />

It looks like Health Digest is advocating<br />

for the detailing industry by<br />

releasing a report about the impact<br />

of a dirty car. And, if you have a<br />

Facebook page for your business,<br />

this is a good story to add on as it<br />

sends out the message: Your car can<br />

make you ill.<br />

An April 23 Heatlh Digest story<br />

reported, “Of course, it's not just the<br />

discarded French fries that can be<br />

causing your car to be toxic. Bacteria<br />

from your air conditioning system<br />

caused by mold and mildew forming<br />

in the condensation can be carried<br />

throughout the car whenever you<br />

turn it on, as per Rick's Professional<br />

Auto Detailing. Over time, this can<br />

lead to what is known as toxic car<br />

syndrome. Also known as sick car<br />

syndrome, this is a condition that is<br />

marked by flu-like symptoms, such<br />

as coughing, tightening of the chest,<br />

wheezing, and drowsiness.”<br />

Mobile detailing now<br />

available in Western<br />

North Dakota<br />

HighShine Auto Detail is now open<br />

for business in Dickinson, North Dakota,<br />

according to a May 19 KXNET<br />

report.<br />

Owners Fernando Martinez and<br />

Jessica Miller-Moore saw a need for<br />

an auto detailing business that would<br />

take the hassle out of the process, the<br />

story said. A mobile detailing business<br />

seemed like the perfect answer.<br />

Martinez said in the story, “I found<br />

that it’s best just because with all the oil<br />

field dads up there right now, and all<br />

the moms are home, all day every day,<br />

they don’t have a ride to drop off their<br />

vehicle to get it done.”<br />

The business offers interior and exterior<br />

cleaning, in addition to paint corrections,<br />

ceramic coating, and tinting.<br />

They specialize in work vehicles, such<br />

as pickups or semis, especially those<br />

coming from the oil field.<br />

Miller-Moore said in the story, “Just<br />

our big thing mostly, is that we come to<br />

you. That’s just kind of our motto, is we<br />

travel to you.”<br />

One plus to having a mobile detailing<br />

business is little competition as according<br />

to the story, the mobile nature of<br />

their business is a novelty in the Dickinson<br />

community, the story said.<br />

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Improvements made to expand access<br />

to capital for small businesses<br />

Following the recent finalization of two<br />

new rules aimed at closing gaps in capital<br />

access for America’s small business owners,<br />

Administrator Isabella Casillas Guzman,<br />

head of the U.S. Small Business Administration<br />

(SBA) and the voice for America’s 33<br />

million small businesses in President Biden’s<br />

Cabinet has announced streamlined lender<br />

procedures and other details on implementation,<br />

according to a May 11 press release.<br />

"The Biden-Harris Administration recognizes<br />

that small businesses are the drivers<br />

of our economy, and that to participate in<br />

the opportunities created by the President’s<br />

Invest in America agenda, that they need<br />

capital to start, grow, and be resilient,”<br />

said Administrator Guzman in the press<br />

release. “The ongoing modernization<br />

of SBA’s loan programs will help ensure<br />

more borrowers can get funded through<br />

a broader network of lenders so they can<br />

help build a strengthened American economy<br />

that innovates, manufactures and provides<br />

the products and services that make<br />

our lives better across Main Street.”<br />

The “Investing in America” agenda<br />

has created 12.7 million jobs and a small<br />

business boom of 10.5 million new business<br />

applications in 2021 and 2022, the<br />

press release stated. At the same time,<br />

SBA recognizes that small businesses,<br />

particularly those owned by individuals in<br />

underserved communities who are highly<br />

entrepreneurial, still face longstanding<br />

barriers in accessing the capital needed to<br />

start or grow their businesses.<br />

To that end, building on the newly<br />

finalized rules, SBA announced publicly,<br />

for the first time, its plans to:<br />

• Streamline eligibility determination<br />

of SBA-backed loans. To reduce<br />

the burden on SBA lenders and<br />

streamline operations, SBA will<br />

bring eligibility determination on<br />

SBA loans in-house through new<br />

technology starting August 1, <strong>2023</strong>,<br />

which will ensure more lenders<br />

can focus on their customers and<br />

expand capacity to increase lending,<br />

especially small-dollar lending.<br />

• Add new fraud review on all loans.<br />

Building on President Biden’s<br />

commitment to<br />

root out fraud, the<br />

SBA will use advanced<br />

data analytics, third party data<br />

checks, and artificial intelligence<br />

tools for fraud review on all loans<br />

in the 7(a) and 504 Loan Programs<br />

prior to approval, starting August 1,<br />

<strong>2023</strong>. To date, loan approval in these<br />

programs has largely been delegated<br />

to lenders, who approve loans based<br />

on SBA rules but without the agency<br />

checking for indicators of fraud<br />

upfront.<br />

“These new changes are an important<br />

step toward ensuring that more small business<br />

owners have the opportunity to grow<br />

and succeed,” said Associate Administrator<br />

Patrick Kelley in the press release.<br />

The SBA will also offer:<br />

• New, simplified guidelines for<br />

lenders on how to make SBA loans,<br />

as part of a new Standard Operating<br />

Procedure (SOP). Under the new<br />

rules, SBA lenders will now be able<br />

to use their existing credit policies<br />

for similarly sized non-SBA loans up<br />

to $500,000. This will expand the<br />

number of credit-worthy business<br />

owners who can access SBA loans,<br />

especially small-dollar loans.<br />

• New procedures cutting red tape,<br />

as outlined in a Procedural Notice<br />

removing the requirement for a<br />

Loan Authorization, a set of forms<br />

that has become duplicative and<br />

unnecessary for lenders.<br />

• Details simplifying and clarifying<br />

affiliation standards to ease the<br />

burden on small business owners<br />

and lenders, and make clear who<br />

qualifies for an SBA loan, as part of<br />

a new Informational Notice.<br />

• SBA will continue to post updates in<br />

the coming days, including:<br />

• A notice to accept new lender<br />

applications in the Small Business<br />

Lending Company (SBLC) program.<br />

This will allow the existing program<br />

to provide loans to an expanded<br />

number of small businesses. SBA<br />

will accept applications beginning<br />

June 1 until July 31. SBA will name<br />

up to three new SBLCs.<br />

• Additional, simplified lender<br />

guidelines, including on lender<br />

participation, servicing, and<br />

liquidation.<br />

• The 7(a) and 504 loan programs are<br />

the most popular loan programs<br />

offered by SBA, the press release<br />

stated. The 7(a) Loan Program<br />

provides flexible financing options<br />

for a variety of business purposes,<br />

including capital and equipment<br />

purchases. The 504 Loan Program<br />

allows small businesses to finance<br />

fixed assets such as real estate, in<br />

addition to equipment. Both programs<br />

are designed to meet the needs of<br />

small business owners with low-cost<br />

and long-term capital. In Fiscal Year<br />

2022, the two programs provided<br />

a combined $35 billion in capital to<br />

57,000 American small businesses.<br />

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INDUSTRY NEWS<br />

Owners are stressed thanks to the small business credit crunch<br />

The small business credit crunch is no<br />

joke. “Borrowing for small businesses was<br />

already constrained due to rising interest<br />

rates,” according to an Associated Press<br />

report from April 11. The recent collapses<br />

of Silicon Valley Bank and Signature<br />

Bank, didn’t help matters and now it looks<br />

like other banks are being “forced to tighten<br />

credit further, since they’re seeing an<br />

outflow of deposits, which means they<br />

need to retain capital,” the story said.<br />

According to Ray Keating, chief economist<br />

for the Small Business & Entrepreneurship<br />

Council, “It’s hard to read how<br />

severe this is going to be, but it’s certainly<br />

going to be significant and when you look<br />

at how things play out, small businesses<br />

are hit the hardest.”<br />

And, according to the latest Biz2Credit<br />

Small Business Lending Index released<br />

in February, the approval rates of small<br />

business loan requests at big banks have<br />

fallen for nine consecutive months, the<br />

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story said. Only 14.2 precent of credit applications<br />

were approved by larger banks<br />

in February. Two years ago, the approval<br />

rate was at 28.3 percent.<br />

The story said that the Federal Reserve<br />

will hike interes rates in order to<br />

slow down the economy and ease inflation.<br />

Rohit Arora, CEO and co-founder<br />

of Biz2Credit, said that small businesses<br />

will be left in the lurch.<br />

According to an April 10 Reuters report,<br />

“By raising the benchmark interest<br />

rate that banks use in lending money to<br />

each other, tighter monetary policy makes<br />

consumer and business loans more expensive<br />

and harder to get. In theory, that lowers<br />

demand for credit-financed goods and<br />

services, and in time also lowers inflation.”<br />

Thankfully, the worst seems to have<br />

been avoided, stated the Reuters story.<br />

“Emergency steps by the Fed and Treasury<br />

Department protected depositors<br />

at both banks, helping ease what could<br />

have been a destabilizing run from smaller<br />

banks to larger ones. Other actions by<br />

the Fed helped maintain confidence in the<br />

wider banking system.”<br />

The response - less lending, tighter<br />

credit standards and higher interest on<br />

loans - was already taking shape. Officials<br />

are now watching for signs that has been<br />

kicked into overdrive.<br />

According to the story, Matthew Luzzetti,<br />

chief U.S. economist for Deutsche<br />

Bank, recently estimated if the next Fed loan<br />

officers survey shows a 10-percentage-point<br />

rise in the share of banks tightening credit,<br />

it could lop about half a percentage point<br />

from U.S. output - enough to turn expected<br />

meager growth into a recession.<br />

"These scenarios would push lending<br />

conditions into a range that has more clearly<br />

been associated with recession," Luzzetti<br />

and his team wrote, according to Reuters,<br />

saying they see potential for "a broader<br />

tightening of financial conditions that will<br />

meaningfully slow growth at a time when<br />

recession risks were already elevated."<br />

But…there’s some good news….<br />

According to a more recent report<br />

from Keating, the latest Consumer Price<br />

Index (CPI) report from the U.S. Bureau<br />

of Labor Statistics showed that inflation<br />

ran at a mere 0.1 percent in March.<br />

“That’s welcome news,” he stated.<br />

For the 12-month period ending in<br />

March, CPI inflation ran at 5.0 percent,<br />

which was the slowest 12-month pace<br />

since the period that ended in March<br />

2021, he stated.<br />

“If we look at the past nine months,<br />

the news improves, as the annualized inflation<br />

rate over that period registered approximately<br />

3.2 percent. Indeed, as made<br />

clear in the following chart from the BLS<br />

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How to pay back the SBA<br />

The new MySBA Loan Portal, found<br />

at https://lending.sba.gov replaces the<br />

Capital Access Financial System (CAFS).<br />

If you have one of the loans listed below,<br />

you will be able to log in to view loan details,<br />

access statements, and make payments,<br />

according to the small business<br />

administration.<br />

• COVID-19 EIDL<br />

• SBA disaster loans<br />

• Paycheck Protection Program (PPP)<br />

loans (payments only available for<br />

guaranty-purchased loans)<br />

• 7(a) loans (payments only available<br />

for guaranty-purchased SBAserviced<br />

loans)<br />

• 504 loans (only debenturepurchased)<br />

If your type of loan is not listed, the<br />

information on this page does not apply.<br />

Please contact your lending institution for<br />

assistance. If you need more help, you<br />

may contact the SBA loan servicing center<br />

listed on your account statement.<br />

Logging in<br />

If you have an account to access either<br />

of these systems, you can use your existing<br />

username and password to log in to the<br />

MySBA Loan Portal:<br />

• Capital Access Financial System<br />

(CAFS)<br />

• Veteran Small Business Certification<br />

(VetCert)<br />

Please note, the COVID-19 EIDL application<br />

portal (also known as the "RAP-<br />

ID portal") is closed. Your RAPID portal<br />

username and password cannot be used<br />

to log in to the MySBA Loan Portal.<br />

Registration<br />

If you don't have an account in either<br />

CAFS or VetCert, you will need to register for<br />

a new account in the MySBA Loan Portal.<br />

Find your loan number<br />

If you have an existing MySBA Loan<br />

Portal account, you can find your loan<br />

number by logging in.<br />

If you have not created an account, you<br />

can find your loan number on the top left<br />

corner of the Note and the Loan Authorization<br />

and Agreement. It is NOT the<br />

same as your application number.<br />

If you need assistance finding your loan<br />

number:<br />

• For COVID-19 EIDL, contact the<br />

SBA COVID-19 EIDL Customer<br />

Service Center at 833-853-5638.<br />

• For Disaster loans, contact the SBA<br />

Disaster Assistance Customer Service<br />

Center at 800-659-2955 or email<br />

disastercustomerservice@sba.gov.<br />

• For PPP, 7(a), and 504 loans,<br />

contact the SBA loan servicing<br />

center handling your loan.<br />

View loan statements and<br />

payment due dates<br />

You can check loan balances and payment<br />

due dates by logging in to the MyS-<br />

BA Loan Portal.<br />

COVID-19 EIDL borrowers:<br />

• Your first payment is due 30 months<br />

from the date of the original Note,<br />

which can be found in your original<br />

loan closing documents.<br />

• Monthly email reminders will be sent<br />

but you must log into the MySBA<br />

Loan Portal to view your payment<br />

due date and amount.<br />

Make payments<br />

There are several options to make a<br />

payment to SBA. Borrowers with the following<br />

loan types can make payments online<br />

through the MySBA Loan Portal. All<br />

others should contact their lender directly<br />

for payment information.<br />

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• COVID-19 EIDL<br />

• SBA disaster loans<br />

• Guaranty-purchased Paycheck<br />

Protection Program (PPP) loans<br />

• Guaranty-purchased SBA-serviced<br />

7(a) loans<br />

• Debenture-purchased 504 loans<br />

Pay online<br />

Online payments are recommended for<br />

faster processing times. To get started:<br />

1. Log in to the MySBA Loan Portal.<br />

2. In the "Loan" section of the home<br />

screen, select the "Action" button<br />

next to the loan you want to pay.<br />

3. Select "Payments" from the<br />

dropdown, then "Make payment."<br />

4. Enter your billing information.<br />

For one-time payments:<br />

One-time payments can be made using<br />

a bank account, debit card, or PayPal.<br />

1. 1. Enter a payment amount, then<br />

select “One-Time Payment” for<br />

your payment schedule.<br />

2. Review your entries, then select<br />

"Confirm Payment."<br />

For recurring payments:<br />

Recurring payments can be made using<br />

a bank account or a debit card.<br />

1. Enter a payment amount, then<br />

select “Recurring Payment” for<br />

your payment schedule.<br />

2. Enter the payment start date.<br />

3. Choose the number of<br />

installments and payment<br />

frequency. If you are using a debit<br />

card, installments are limited to<br />

36 months and you cannot set<br />

payments beyond the debit card<br />

expiration date.<br />

4. Review your entries, then select<br />

"Confirm Payment."<br />

To view and manage recurring payments,<br />

go to “Loan Accounts” on the top<br />

navigation and select “Manage Recurring<br />

Payments.”<br />

Use online bill pay through your personal<br />

banking account:<br />

1. Add U.S. Small Business<br />

Administration as a payee on your<br />

personal online banking account.<br />

2. Enter your 10-digit loan number<br />

as the “Account Number.” Note:<br />

your loan number is not the same<br />

as your application number.<br />

Loan numbers are listed on your<br />

account statements.<br />

3. If you need to enter a payment<br />

address, enter P.O. Box 3918,<br />

Portland, OR 97208-3918. If you<br />

need to enter a telephone number,<br />

enter the telephone number found<br />

on the front of your statement.<br />

4. Set up an electronic one-time<br />

or recurring payment using your<br />

bank’s bill pay service.<br />

Pay your loan in full<br />

If you want to repay your COVID-19<br />

EIDL loan in full, you are responsible for<br />

all daily accrued interest and the repayment<br />

of any Uniform Commercial Code<br />

(UCC) fees paid. Request a payoff amount<br />

by contacting the service office listed on<br />

your monthly 1201 Borrower Statement,<br />

available in the MySBA Loan Portal. If<br />

you do not have a statement, please contact<br />

the SBA COVID-19 EIDL Customer<br />

Service Center at 833-853-5638.<br />

Mail your payment<br />

1. Make payments by check or<br />

money order, payable to the “U.S.<br />

Small Business Administration.”<br />

2. Enter your 10-digit SBA loan<br />

number in the memo field on your<br />

check or money order.<br />

3. Mail your payment to: U.S. Small<br />

Business Administration, P.O. Box<br />

3918, Portland, OR 97208-3918.<br />

Options for COVID-19 EIDL borrowers<br />

facing financial hardship<br />

To learn about SBA's financial counseling<br />

resources and the COVID-19<br />

EIDL Hardship Accommodation Plan,<br />

visit Manage your EIDL. Note: The<br />

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Honoring his Legacy<br />

The following is Q&A With Jacqueline<br />

Hawkins, wife of Chris Evans, regarding<br />

The Chris Evans Foundation.<br />

How did the Chris Evans<br />

Foundation come about?<br />

Jacqueline Hawkins: Chris was referred<br />

to me as a consulting client for a<br />

business plan. Despite having 30 years’<br />

of experience in the industry, writing two<br />

books, and working with multiple successful<br />

mobile operations, he faced huge challenges<br />

getting a shop of his own.<br />

What was Chris’s goal/mission?<br />

JH: There was only one thing Chris loved<br />

more than detailing, and while I would<br />

love to say that ‘thing’ was me, I was a<br />

relative newcomer in Chris’ life, being his<br />

wife doesn’t necessarily make me the best<br />

spokesperson for his dreams which is why<br />

[friend and mentor] Robert “Bob” Wrasman<br />

is a very intracule part of this organization.<br />

Chris spent a great deal of his life<br />

working, researching, reading, and discussing,<br />

mostly with Bob, ways to improve this<br />

industry. elevating it as a nationally recognizable<br />

skilled profession that it is.<br />

He wanted the world to know this is<br />

more than just car washing, and there is a<br />

science behind every aspect of detailing,<br />

preservation & restoration of vehicles.<br />

There were personal and organizational<br />

safety concerns that were being overlooked.<br />

Liabilities that customers faced<br />

that could cost them a fortune and have<br />

no recourse. There were gaps in the industry<br />

that he found ways to fill.<br />

How can Chris’s mission/goals<br />

help the industry?<br />

JH: He would talk about the many challenges<br />

individuals would have with breaking<br />

into the industry from his personal experience,<br />

whether it was financing to start<br />

a mobile operation/brick and mortar, he<br />

wanted to stress the need to be properly<br />

licensed and insured and what professionalism<br />

looked like for both. He wanted to<br />

educate people and change the perception<br />

that detailing was just a glorified car wash.<br />

The industry needed to be standardized,<br />

best practices and safety standards highlighted<br />

and promoted. Shops managed in<br />

such a way as to promote efficiency, safety<br />

for employees and customers alike.<br />

Why should students come<br />

to you and is there a bigger<br />

picture?<br />

JH: The background of most individuals<br />

in the industry didn’t include business<br />

school, accounting, chemistry and customer<br />

service, all skill sets useful to the industry.<br />

A 4-year college degree is not for everyone.<br />

Most were troubled youth or justice<br />

involved adults. So that became his focus.<br />

Everything was very personal to him. He<br />

wanted to give people options, people love<br />

their cars and enjoy making them look<br />

good, there is a decent amount of money<br />

to be made. Just maybe while teaching<br />

others about what he loved we would get<br />

the attention of area youth, reduce some<br />

of the negativity surrounding Chicago’s<br />

youth and give real money-making options<br />

to them and returning citizens.<br />

What makes this class or the<br />

foundation different from any<br />

other class?<br />

JH: What we are offering is not tied to a<br />

specific product, rather it's what’s best for<br />

the type of paint, climate, the frequency<br />

of use, and/or the customers’ budget, and<br />

what the car actually needs. Chris was<br />

very intentional about maintaining his<br />

autonomy had great integrity when dealing<br />

with customers and wanted others to<br />

do the same. Well, the classes will follow a<br />

similar standard. What’s the best product,<br />

tool, and application method for the specific<br />

needs of this customer and vehicle.<br />

Education is the key, and a wide variety<br />

of products and tools will be utilized in<br />

the training. There is also a holistic side to<br />

what we offer that includes job readiness,<br />

workforce development, SEL coaching,<br />

entrepreneurship, financing, insurance,<br />

licensing, customer service, essentially<br />

everything you need to know to get the<br />

job done effectively, efficiently, and safely,<br />

whether as an employee or employer.<br />

Where will the classes be taught?<br />

JH: Chris always wanted to give back<br />

firstly to Chicago, where it all started for<br />

him and then other large Urban areas,<br />

getting the attention of youth everywhere<br />

reducing street crime and violence – City,<br />

state and federal grant funds will be sought<br />

out to support the work of the foundation,<br />

along with corporate sponsorship and individual<br />

donations. We are tax exempt so if<br />

you need to reduce you tax base, then give<br />

generously to the Chris Evans Foundation.<br />

How will this benefit already<br />

established detailers?<br />

JH: Beyond the all-inclusive beginners’<br />

class, we want to offer affordable a la cart<br />

classes as one-day learning opportunities to<br />

sharpen one’s skills or pick up new ones to<br />

expand current services. This may include:<br />

Tinting, PPF, fabric/leather repair, just to<br />

name a few. These classes will take place all<br />

across the county, we have wonderful sponsors<br />

that are making space available to us<br />

to teach and improve communities overall.<br />

What Employment Opportunities<br />

can students look forward to?<br />

JH: When writing the business plan, I<br />

learned so much about this industry. Detailing<br />

is a $14 billion industry, which continued<br />

to grow in spite of the pandemic.<br />

This growth, left employment gaps in car<br />

dealerships, auction houses, museums,<br />

service repair centers and detail shops.<br />

This class can prepare students for employment<br />

or entrepreneurship and will<br />

even help with marketing.<br />

What industry support<br />

will be offered?<br />

JH: Chris worked in the industry, wrote<br />

about it and taught it and he also was the<br />

founder of National Detail Consultants<br />

(NDC). Members of the Foundation are<br />

committed to continuing that work also.<br />

Whether business services, on site trainings,<br />

safety evaluations, or continuing education<br />

certifications, NDC is here to help.<br />

What does Full<br />

Programming include?<br />

JH: For beginners, 3 days a week for 6<br />

weeks of classroom and hands-on education,<br />

with job readiness, workforce development,<br />

detailing basics & best practices,<br />

products, tools and equipment, quizzes/<br />

tests, life skills training, SEL coaching and<br />

job placement assistance and entrepreneurship<br />

101.<br />

Anything else you would<br />

like to share?<br />

JH: Since Chris passed away there has<br />

been such an outpouring of love and support<br />

that has been truly overwhelming.<br />

I want to offer sincere thanks to all of<br />

Chris’ colleagues, friends and supporters.<br />

Chris was always thinking about the next<br />

big industry-related idea, and he kept meticulous<br />

notes. He’s not here in person,<br />

but I do believe he is here in spirit, I hope<br />

we’ve been able to make him proud, but<br />

please know this is only the beginning.<br />

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The International Detailing Association<br />

(IDA) is the leading global association<br />

for professional detailing operators, suppliers,<br />

and consultants to the industry. As<br />

such, we are constantly working to develop<br />

new resources to support our mission:<br />

promoting the success and growth of the<br />

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If it has been a while since you have been<br />

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The IDA’s Third Thursday Webinar<br />

series has been educating detailers for<br />

nearly ten years. Webinars are held on<br />

a monthly basis, and typically topics focus<br />

on the more technical side of things.<br />

However, based on data collection and<br />

survey results, we know that many members<br />

are sole operators of small businesses<br />

who need help understanding how to successfully<br />

run a business. That’s why earlier<br />

this year the IDA Tradeshow & Education<br />

Committee introduced the new Business<br />

Development Webinar series. So far, sessions<br />

have covered common questions like<br />

filing taxes for your business and developing<br />

and maintaining a business plan. All<br />

<strong>web</strong>inars are free for members to attend<br />

and $25 per session for non-members.<br />

For those who can’t attend the live<br />

<strong>web</strong>inar sessions, we have a growing library<br />

of 80+ <strong>web</strong>inar recordings. While<br />

many of these recordings are currently<br />

in English, we have also been working<br />

to increase offerings in other languages.<br />

At this time, several <strong>web</strong>inars have been<br />

translated into alternative languages, including<br />

German, Spanish, and Vietnamese,<br />

which all can be found on the IDA’s<br />

<strong>web</strong>site. Additionally, in conjunction with<br />

Love Your Detailer Day on February 15 th<br />

of this year, we held the first-ever International<br />

Education Day, which consisted<br />

of eight different educational sessions<br />

presented in various languages by international<br />

members. Represented languages<br />

included British English, German,<br />

Bulgarian, Spanish, Norwegian, Dutch,<br />

French, and Italian. Topics included the<br />

use of dry ice in detailing, how to determine<br />

pricing, product safety, and improving<br />

workflow and efficiency. Recordings<br />

of each session are available on the-ida.<br />

com. We hope to make this an annual<br />

event with even more countries and languages<br />

represented in the future.<br />

One additional improvement we have<br />

made to our <strong>web</strong>inar program is the use<br />

of a new streaming platform. Members<br />

now have the option to participate via<br />

a private YouTube link or our exclusive<br />

members-only Facebook group. It is now<br />

easier than ever for members to attend<br />

<strong>web</strong>inars and learn from their detailing<br />

peers and business experts.<br />

In addition to growing our educational<br />

offerings, we have also expanded the<br />

IDA Certification Program. Besides adding<br />

two specialty certifications (Watercraft<br />

and Motorcycle) over the past couple of<br />

years, we have also recently begun offering<br />

IDA Certification – Phase I (CD)<br />

online exams in additional languages,<br />

including Portuguese, Spanish, French,<br />

Dutch, and Italian, with more offerings<br />

on the way. As we strive to become a truly<br />

international organization, our goal is to<br />

continue offering the online CD exams<br />

in as many different languages as possible<br />

to ensure full and fair participation in the<br />

IDA Certification Program for detailers<br />

across the globe. The IDA Certification<br />

Committee – along with IDA Chapters<br />

and international Recognized Independent<br />

Trainers (RITs) – have been busy<br />

coordinating and perfecting these translations<br />

and will continue to present more<br />

certification opportunities for detailing<br />

professionals worldwide in the future.<br />

It is important for us to offer as many<br />

international and translated educational<br />

and certification opportunities as possible<br />

with the IDA Chapter Program continuing<br />

to expand. We are now up to 17 chapters,<br />

with several more in the process of<br />

being established. The IDA Chapter Development<br />

Committee continues to grow<br />

support for international members and is<br />

working on ways to make it even easier for<br />

detailers worldwide to take advantage of<br />

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by both our association and the detailing<br />

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The Health & Wellness Task Force has<br />

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members to connect with detailing peers<br />

from across the globe and chat about<br />

whatever is on their mind – detailing-related<br />

or not. This initiative stemmed from<br />

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a specific topic (such as managing<br />

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off time from work, etc., so we decided to<br />

continue hosting the virtual events regularly,<br />

even after travel restrictions were<br />

lifted and tradeshows were once again<br />

added to members’ schedules. Keep an<br />

eye on the event calendar on the-ida.com<br />

for upcoming virtual events.<br />

Another recently established group<br />

that has been active in building up resources<br />

is the IDA Industry Standards<br />

Task Force, whose main goal is to gather<br />

global differences in detailing terminology<br />

and other differences within the detailing<br />

process as it is completed around the<br />

world, so that we may create a comprehensive<br />

guide to offer to members. Since<br />

the task force’s inception, the group has<br />

conducted multiple surveys seeking input<br />

from members across the globe about<br />

terms used to describe the same detailing<br />

issue or situation. The data collected from<br />

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of new terminology glossaries on our<br />

<strong>web</strong>site, which are available to members<br />

and the public alike. These updates help<br />

ensure that detailers around the world<br />

can confidently understand one another,<br />

especially when working together and<br />

travelling internationally.<br />

As previously mentioned, many IDA<br />

members are small business owners who<br />

are well-versed in the ins-and-outs of detailing<br />

but may not be as prepared when it<br />

comes to day-to-day business operations.<br />

To help members with the operations<br />

side of things, we have compiled a library<br />

of business resources and templates from<br />

fellow members to assist those who may<br />

not even know where to start with paperwork<br />

and documentation. Available<br />

templates include a sample business plan,<br />

employment agreement, inventory tracking<br />

spreadsheet, marketing plan, vehicle<br />

intake form, and much more. This resource<br />

library is available on our <strong>web</strong>site<br />

for all active members.<br />

Increasing Consumer<br />

Awareness & Building<br />

Relationships with<br />

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IDA members have long stated that<br />

increased consumer awareness is one<br />

thing that would make their membership<br />

even more meaningful. They want the<br />

public to understand what it means to not<br />

only be a professional detailer, but specifically<br />

what it means to be an IDA member<br />

and Certified Detailer. While many consumers<br />

are familiar with the ASE Certification<br />

for mechanics, not as many yet understand<br />

the value of IDA membership<br />

or certification. That is why, earlier this<br />

year, the IDA launched its consumer-focused<br />

<strong>web</strong>site, DetailingNearby.com, and<br />

corresponding social media pages. The<br />

main purpose of this <strong>web</strong>site is to help<br />

connect consumers with local detailing<br />

professionals in their area. A clean, simple<br />

<strong>web</strong>site makes it easy for consumers to<br />

find the services they need while learning<br />

more about the detailing profession, how<br />

detailing is different from basic car washing,<br />

and what sets IDA Certified Detailers<br />

apart. Now that the site has been fully<br />

launched, the IDA Marketing & Communications<br />

Committee’s main focus is<br />

to develop engaging and educational content<br />

(blog posts, social media, videos, and<br />

advertisements) to drive traffic to the site<br />

and, ultimately, connect more consumers<br />

directly with IDA members.<br />

While consumer awareness is vital,<br />

it is also important for the IDA to<br />

build connections with industry-related<br />

partners, including dealerships and vocational<br />

schools. The IDA Membership<br />

Committee is working to build a customized<br />

package of benefits and offerings<br />

specifically for dealerships, as they have<br />

the potential to be a large sector within<br />

our organization. Likewise, with an increased<br />

focus on improving the industry<br />

for the next generation of detailers, the<br />

IDA Tradeshow & Education Committee<br />

has made it a focus to make inroads<br />

with vocational schools and technical<br />

programs to introduce the IDA Certification<br />

Program to detailing students<br />

while they are still in school.<br />

Improving the<br />

Industry for<br />

Future Generations<br />

of Detailers<br />

Speaking of the next generation of<br />

detailing professionals, two of the main<br />

projects for the IDA Founder’s Club are<br />

the Founder’s Endowment Fund and the<br />

Scholarship Program. The former was established<br />

a couple years ago to grant funds<br />

to programs and projects that align with<br />

the goal of the fund: to further detailing<br />

education and training for future detailers.<br />

Past recipients have included a college program<br />

wishing to build a new wash bay for<br />

900+ students, a community-based internship<br />

program for low-income participants<br />

to learn a new trade/skill, and individual<br />

trainers looking to purchase new tools and<br />

equipment for their international training<br />

sessions. Grant applications are accepted<br />

February 1st – October 31st each year (applicants<br />

must be current members of the<br />

IDA). Members can find more details and<br />

the application form on the IDA <strong>web</strong>site.<br />

The IDA Founder’s Club also manages<br />

the Scholarship Program, which was created<br />

to provide career-minded individuals<br />

in professional detailing the opportunity to<br />

develop professionally, civically, and socially<br />

within the detailing industry. The two<br />

current scholarship programs honor Rick<br />

Goldstein and the Goldstein Family, and<br />

Denis Healy and the Healy Family. The<br />

Rick Goldstein Scholarship Program has<br />

two components: 1) scholarships offered<br />

to attend university and college training<br />

programs, and 2) scholarships for programs<br />

donated by private companies offering<br />

hands-on training. The Healy Family<br />

Scholarship Program (contingent upon<br />

passage of an approved Goldstein Scholarship<br />

education program) gives recipients<br />

the opportunity to take the IDA Certification<br />

Exam and IDA Skills Validated exams<br />

at no cost. Interested candidates can learn<br />

more and apply on our <strong>web</strong>site (applications<br />

are accepted on a rolling basis and<br />

are evaluated quarterly).<br />

Benefits<br />

Beyond Detailing<br />

It is the IDA’s goal to support our<br />

members as more than just detailing<br />

professionals, but also as individuals. In<br />

addition to the previously mentioned<br />

health and wellness resources, which<br />

support our members’ wellbeing, we<br />

have also recently introduced a program<br />

to help support our members’<br />

pocketbooks: BenefitHub! The BenefitHub<br />

portal is available exclusively to<br />

IDA members and provides valuable<br />

discounts and rewards in a variety of<br />

sectors: rental cars, hotels, and travel;<br />

insurance; technology, electronics, and<br />

software; office supplies; and more! Although<br />

this platform doesn’t necessarily<br />

offer detailing-specific deals, many of<br />

the discounts on the site are beneficial to<br />

business owners in general, which many<br />

of our members are. The platform also<br />

helps members save on products and<br />

services in their personal lives, in turn<br />

leaving more money for them to invest<br />

in their businesses. Currently, the BenefitHub<br />

portal has deals and discounts<br />

in 16 different countries, and members<br />

are able to access the portal in their language<br />

of choice.<br />

If any of these benefits have caught<br />

your attention, we encourage you to visit<br />

the-ida.com today – those who are not yet<br />

members can find out how to join, and<br />

current members can start taking advantage<br />

of these programs immediately.<br />

Keep in mind, these projects are all led by<br />

member volunteers serving on committees<br />

and task forces. If you are currently<br />

a member and want to participate on<br />

future initiatives like these, please contact<br />

us at info@the-ida.com or visit our <strong>web</strong>site<br />

to find out how you can get involved:<br />

https://the-ida.com/Get_Involved.<br />

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MEETING<br />

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Where is the<br />

industry headed?<br />

Three detailing<br />

experts weigh in…<br />

PART 1<br />

By Debra Gorgos, Editor<br />

debrag@autodetailingnews.com<br />

At the end of 2022, I was awarded<br />

the opportunity to interview industry experts<br />

Renny Doyle, owner of Detailing<br />

Success and founder of The Detail Mafia;<br />

Justin Labato, owner of JL's Showroom<br />

Detailing, Inc., Director of Training<br />

for Autogeek.com and Lead Global<br />

Consultant for Buff and Shine Mfg; and<br />

Jason Rose, Global Director of Training<br />

for Rupes USA. These three men know<br />

what they’re talking about. From what<br />

they’ve noticed in person, to what they<br />

have heard from others, if you want insight<br />

into the industry, they are the ones<br />

to talk to. We talked for over an hour<br />

about current trends and what the future<br />

holds for professional detailers. The following<br />

is Part 1 of the transcript of that<br />

conversation. Part 2 will appear in the<br />

next issue of Auto Detailing News.<br />

Debra Gorgos:<br />

?<br />

Similar to carwash<br />

memberships, are detail<br />

shop memberships going<br />

to become more of a<br />

thing? And what about apps?<br />

Jason Rose: I would answer the question<br />

and say yes, absolutely. The rewards<br />

programs and the apps for carwashes, I<br />

think, are already migrating into the detail<br />

space and any detailer that's smart<br />

about it, I think, is going to have a program<br />

like that. That's my opinion.<br />

Renny Doyle: The biggest thing I<br />

think detailers struggle with this is not<br />

staying patient and not understanding the<br />

numbers. It's not about a cheap service,<br />

it's about a constant service for people<br />

who are willing to pay and I think coatings<br />

have led us right into an opportunity<br />

where some of the progressive shops are<br />

coming around … We've got, a very small<br />

percentage, but we've got more customers<br />

that are looking for quality over savings<br />

and I think it's the progressive shops<br />

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are going to go more and more in that<br />

direction. I see it growing, but very slowly…<br />

because most people are not patient<br />

enough to make it work. They don’t understand<br />

that it’s not about being cheap,<br />

it’s about offering a premiere service.<br />

Justin Labato: I would agree in regard<br />

to membership being something<br />

that's on detail shops’ radars, but it's also<br />

dependent on the model of the detail<br />

shop. I could take mine and some of the<br />

other more boutique style shops where<br />

car washing can clog up the revenue of<br />

the shop because it's a small service compared<br />

to the continued larger services that<br />

are coming through the shop. But there<br />

are ways to figure that out and navigate<br />

through that by hiring additional staff to<br />

handle that type of service and membership<br />

programs. I think it's just a matter<br />

of the individual detail shop and what<br />

approach they want to take... I do see it<br />

progressing, yes, but it’s going to depend<br />

on the model.<br />

JR: Just to add to that, any of those highend<br />

detail shops that are focused on paint<br />

coating applications and things like that,<br />

like premium, protection packages, I<br />

strongly encourage them to have a membership<br />

program and a way of getting<br />

those customers back in at three months<br />

or six months or one year. Because if you<br />

just do a coating and collect the money<br />

and send them on their way, you do not<br />

have any repeat business for you and it<br />

doesn't keep you engaged with your customer.<br />

So, I think those who have apps<br />

and have the programs that support the<br />

idea of getting that customer back in is a<br />

very smart decision.<br />

JL: I agree. [As for] customer retention, I<br />

do the same thing. I have seasonal offers,<br />

seasonal maintenance, and annual maintenance<br />

services. And it’s a broad-spectrum<br />

that could be three months, that<br />

could be six months, and it's the service<br />

that accommodates the timeframe and it's<br />

all a matter of how they use it. And we<br />

do a discounted rate, so that way they're<br />

not locked in on a prepaid-program as a<br />

membership. We just say: Hey, once you<br />

become a customer, you get a discounted<br />

rate for you to continue to come back for<br />

these types of services.<br />

JR: So, Justin, you actually have seasons<br />

in Florida?<br />

(Laughter)<br />

RD: I think it's also the market. For instance,<br />

we offer a membership in Sun<br />

Valley, Idaho, which is a market with a lot<br />

of disposable cash, where our customers<br />

are wealthy and it has those offering services<br />

for the wealthy. Where, in Texas it<br />

just didn't fly as well. …and so we were<br />

in a good market, but the disposable cash<br />

wasn’t there. We had one person in Sun<br />

Valley who managed 25 accounts as a<br />

consigliere, and it was pretty much full<br />

time. And the benefits of that was they<br />

were prepaid, and their credit cards were<br />

hit the first of the month. They had a<br />

scheduled date, whether they were mobile,<br />

and the mobile price was premium<br />

versus them bringing it into the shop.<br />

They had access to that consigliere literally<br />

18 hours a day. It was & service, but<br />

it was also a premier market. And I think<br />

like Justin just said, knowing your market<br />

and then going to kind of a quarterly or<br />

seasonal services is brilliant.<br />

DG: I think, as a<br />

?<br />

customer myself, who is<br />

very busy too, the<br />

reminders I get for, say, a<br />

car wash, are a huge help<br />

to me. Reminders to wash off the<br />

road salt from my car, or to come<br />

in for love bug removal, or a happy<br />

birthday/free wash offer great, etc.<br />

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give or take, with a lot of these software<br />

companies coming into industry, that has<br />

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from their software have been super helpful<br />

to all shops at all levels across the board<br />

for that reason.<br />

RD: There's where knowing your numbers<br />

comes in, because then you can get<br />

into being just a wash service. …[We tried<br />

it where customers] paid a-flat per month<br />

per car, but it was a high number even<br />

back then, and there's maybe five markets<br />

in the entire country that could withstand<br />

such charges. Then understanding that<br />

you have to be connected, so we didn't sell<br />

the membership, our customers did. We<br />

made it very sought-after…<br />

DG: Are there any<br />

?<br />

upcoming trends for<br />

vehicles you think will<br />

impact the detailing<br />

industry? I looked at car<br />

trends for <strong>2023</strong> and there were<br />

lots of things going on and<br />

proposed.<br />

RD: Jason's got a really good answer. I was<br />

just talking to the Griot’s guys when they<br />

were here. You'd be a person on this because<br />

you're now on the front-line of what's<br />

happening with the paints and so forth.<br />

JR: I wrote three things that are trending<br />

that are going to definitely impact detailers.<br />

The first one, which I've been tracking<br />

for about six years now, is the paint<br />

thickness. So, paint thickness coming out<br />

of the car factories as a trend is getting<br />

thinner and thinner every new model<br />

year and I don't know when they're going<br />

to stop. But it is definitely getting thinner<br />

and thinner. For example, a few weeks<br />

ago we had a class at my academy and<br />

a rental car, it was a brand-new Toyota<br />

Tacoma truck and it had 3.2 Mils on<br />

it. Which 3 Mils, for those people that<br />

know, is like a line in the sand. Where<br />

you're going to say, “I'm not going to<br />

do anything aggressive on this paint.”<br />

So this was a brand-new car. It had 50<br />

something miles on it. So, it was scary. So<br />

that's one trend that I think every detailer<br />

and I personally have been on a soapbox<br />

just every chance I get trying to tell<br />

people, because all of our products and<br />

procedures are getting more aggressive.<br />

So, the polishing systems are all getting<br />

stronger and stronger, compounds are<br />

getting stronger, pads are getting better<br />

and faster, tools are getting stronger.<br />

If you combine those two trends,<br />

our systems are getting more effective<br />

and efficient and faster<br />

and deeper and better. And<br />

then the paint's getting thinner<br />

and thinner. We as a detailing<br />

community, if every<br />

time we touch a car, if we thin<br />

out the paint that much further,<br />

it's a setup for people to burn<br />

through paint and I predict that<br />

the incidents of detailers burning<br />

through paint or damaging paint while<br />

they're trying to repair paint is going to<br />

increase. So, for me that's trend number<br />

one.<br />

The other trend that's happening is the<br />

car factories are beginning to experiment<br />

and explore with ceramic-infused clearcoat.<br />

So, the aftermarket and the detailers<br />

that are, you know, having a heyday, riding<br />

this wave with paint coatings, it's happening<br />

that the car factories are going to<br />

kick out cars with that kind of protection<br />

built into the clearcoat. I still think there'll<br />

be a market for aftermarket detailing and<br />

putting on extra protection on top of that.<br />

But it is going to make ‘muddy waters’ in<br />

terms of what the consumer and the car<br />

owner believes, because they're going to<br />

think, “Well, I already have this protection<br />

from the factory. Why do I need your extra<br />

protection?” So that's one other thing.<br />

And then the third thing I wrote is<br />

robots, because at Automechanika in Europe,<br />

and even at SEMA, I’m seeing more<br />

and more companies that are developing<br />

technology that are robotic, automated,<br />

sanding and polishing systems. If you kind<br />

of look into the future and you take that<br />

and extrapolate it further into the crystal<br />

ball, I do see in our future that there are<br />

going to be detailing stations that you'll<br />

be able to drive-in and have robots polish<br />

your car. I think it's coming…<br />

Justin Labato<br />

RD: What we're seeing in the trainings,<br />

for instance, is [my wife Diane] just went<br />

and bought a new Mazda and she had<br />

three exact make/models with option<br />

packages exactly the same… same color<br />

and she went through and took our paint<br />

gauge to the dealership. Two of the vehicles<br />

had under 3 Mils average, brand<br />

new. [The one she bought] was the only<br />

one that had a little over in that 3.1 to<br />

3.2 range. So, you know, both Jason and<br />

I have had conversations about this and<br />

so you're going to see this ...I think I think<br />

people are starting to wake up, but there’s<br />

still an audience that is selling perfection<br />

at all costs and I think that's you know,<br />

it's costly. You know they think we're<br />

old-fashioned, but what they don't understand<br />

is that it's not old-fashioned, we're<br />

putting science behind the words. So, for<br />

instance, we've got Michal Hill. Michael<br />

Hill is a physicist, and he’s part of our<br />

group. He does a lot of testing. Mercedes<br />

Benz is coming out with their new AMG<br />

model, and he says the clearcoat is again<br />

infused with ceramics. They're going to<br />

start marketing that very thin, but very<br />

hard. Well, that's a deadly combination<br />

because people are going to get aggressive<br />

with it to get things out, but they're not<br />

going to realize they can go through very<br />

easily. I echo that with Jason.<br />

Number 2, is, I think, the trend and<br />

we're going all over the country this next<br />

year, and it's called Coatings, Coffees and<br />

Profits. And one of the things that we're<br />

really trying to propel to shops is basically<br />

machine-less services. More and more,<br />

especially as the economy is now starting<br />

to really struggle, we're really pushing seasonal<br />

coatings instead of just going out<br />

and doing these ridiculous claim coatings<br />

and services that don't need a tool, touch<br />

to paint is for two reasons: A. lot of people<br />

don't know the difference. B. You're<br />

seeing these really thin paint systems and<br />

then, lastly, it's very attractive to the consumer<br />

because your price point can be<br />

far more attractive. Yet you get the<br />

protection and added benefit of<br />

shine and perfection. You’re going<br />

to see the more progressive<br />

shops and again not necessarily<br />

the addicted-to-shine shops,<br />

I’m talking about people who<br />

are really looking at the market,<br />

what they can sell and what people<br />

will buy. The entrepreneurs<br />

are going to see there's great value in<br />

selling services that don't even include<br />

touching paint with a machine, and it<br />

could be exactly what Justin said. Again,<br />

your quarterly or your, your seasonal<br />

updates, I love that, and you know that's<br />

what we're pushing in in these new events,<br />

get the paint perfect, go ahead, do all the<br />

paint correction and once that's done with<br />

the base coating that you put on, now it's<br />

all about cleansing that coating and then<br />

putting another layer on seasonally to<br />

protect that coating. So, I think that's a<br />

trend that you're going to start, hopefully<br />

seeing, because I think it's badly needed.<br />

The other thing that I think is really<br />

cool is the trend is there's a lot more<br />

entrepreneurial-based businesses coming<br />

into play, meaning that there are people<br />

coming in the new generation of shops.<br />

They're not addicted to the shine, like<br />

the current or past generations. They are<br />

looking at this as a business opportunity<br />

and honestly, it's propelling our industry<br />

at a level that is amazing, and so finally<br />

we're starting to draw those, and that's<br />

when you draw in those types of people<br />

what it's doing too is its taking and changing<br />

the current and smart people in the<br />

industry, the ones who are really watching<br />

carefully. It's taking some of those ‘oldway<br />

thinkers’ and turning them into entrepreneurial<br />

thinkers, and it's really cool.<br />

JL: Back in regard to the thin paint subject,<br />

I have a term that I use called “repair<br />

value” and once you start to have<br />

little meat on the bone, there's less “repair<br />

value.” You can't revisit that area, that<br />

designated area for any type of repair.<br />

You know it's going back to the, “I got<br />

a scratch on my hood. Can you get that<br />

out?” Well, yes, we can get it out and we<br />

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can pound it on our chests and be happy<br />

and impress the customer. But if we<br />

need to revisit that area at a later<br />

date, that designated area, there's<br />

no more repair value. We can't<br />

do anything. We've now forced<br />

the hand of the customer to the<br />

body shop. So, I feel that that is<br />

where that “repair value” term<br />

comes into place ... We lose that<br />

with the thin paint systems. But<br />

to that approach, with what Renny<br />

was speaking on, with doing the<br />

coatings without correction, I mean<br />

there's this subject floating around now<br />

for a couple of years where the term correction,<br />

yes, and whether you're one step<br />

or multiple steps to fix the paint, I've always<br />

truly believed in my learnings and<br />

teachings from everybody on here and<br />

other leaders in the industry that just even<br />

using a cleaner polish as your last step of<br />

decontamination to the paint, to get that<br />

surgical clean approach is still a necessary<br />

step. We wouldn't technically not be using<br />

a machine on the paint, but we wouldn't<br />

be using a machine on the paint to correct.<br />

It would just be to clean the paint to get<br />

that final step of peace-of-mind by abrasion<br />

that everything is off that because<br />

there are some pretty good polymers and<br />

things in the market still that chemists<br />

have come up with that are durable to all<br />

the chemicals and all the stripping agents<br />

and all of these things. They just laugh at<br />

it, but they can't get away from abrasion<br />

by removing it that way. So that's where<br />

I feel we have to have that and it won't<br />

compromise the thin, clearcoats that are<br />

hitting the market. But it will allow us to<br />

move forward in regard to still being able<br />

to offer a good application with integrity<br />

without skipping a beat and possibly<br />

having a failure or premature failure, and<br />

it's all based on how that's educated, how<br />

that's taught. That way people can get out<br />

of the mindset of correction versus cleaning,<br />

because when I show that to people,<br />

they’re like it just doesn't fit for them. I<br />

think that's a way of movement, kind of<br />

pivoting off into the business side of it,<br />

that has grown so much in our industry<br />

that we're certain to see an uptick in, and<br />

I think if we align that properly, we'll be<br />

able to kind of still ride the wave of coatings,<br />

but in a new approach, by still being<br />

able to capitalize even with these thin<br />

paint systems, but educating our customers<br />

to let them know why we're not taking<br />

that approach. I think that's all based on<br />

communication… So, these are definitely<br />

trends that are happening, but it's just a<br />

matter of navigating through on how to<br />

properly continue that education aspect,<br />

to make sure people understand as the<br />

in-user or the customer.<br />

RD: This brings up a really cool topic:<br />

We're testing a coating right now. We<br />

just tested it on a vehicle that, I would<br />

say, has much, much worse damage than<br />

‘lot rash.’ (That's a term that we use for<br />

a new car that's gone through, you know,<br />

a 30-year-old car wash at the dealership.)<br />

It was only these new coatings that are<br />

coming out, the new generation of coatings,<br />

with only about a 20% difference<br />

on the side that was corrected versus the<br />

side that had no correction. So, the trend<br />

is these coatings are hiding more and<br />

more, and so that's going to be a reality,<br />

too. As to where coatings are doing the<br />

job and you know there's always going<br />

to be room for craftsmen, there's always<br />

going to be people who want their cars<br />

to have the maximum potential of shine,<br />

but there are the average driving population<br />

where they won't know the difference<br />

between a car that's been corrected<br />

and a car that's just been coated with<br />

these new generation coding.<br />

JR: And that's so true. And in the recent<br />

past there was this stigma about, covering<br />

up defects, durable fillers and all<br />

that… they're professional detailers that<br />

would just get crucified for being aligned<br />

with products that would cover up defects.<br />

But based on everything we've<br />

been talking about today, there's<br />

more and more reason today to<br />

deliberately use products that<br />

cover defects rather than remove<br />

them. There's lots of reasons to<br />

do it now and to Renny’s point, the<br />

average consumer of detail services<br />

cannot see the difference between<br />

‘show car perfect’ and, you know, 70%<br />

defect removal anyway. So, the standard<br />

of ‘show car perfect’…I personally really<br />

question how relevant that is any more.<br />

JL: It's clean, shiny and protected. Nothing's<br />

changed other than the egos in the<br />

industry that have put that on the front<br />

street to make consumers think differently.<br />

You know, back in the day, the wash,<br />

clay and wax or just the wash and wax,<br />

the customers were taken aback by the<br />

finish, a secondary layer blew them away<br />

right! (And we did no correction). They<br />

had shiny scratches, but they loved it. But<br />

because, paint correction from, you know,<br />

2012 on up, as it started to grow and that<br />

term became more popular and consumers<br />

became more aware of it, it changed<br />

what consumers’ expectations were. We<br />

did it to ourselves. We are our own worst<br />

enemy with those terms.<br />

RD: And you know what's great about<br />

this coating we just tested is that you can<br />

still correct it. Exactly what Justin just<br />

said: We're always going to be relative and<br />

here we've got one of the leading companies<br />

in tool marketing worldwide, Rupes.<br />

Rupes changed the game and they continue<br />

to change the game even with their<br />

products. You’re going to be able to take<br />

and coat a car with those products and it's<br />

never going to go away. But, yet I can take<br />

and do a light, light cleanup polish that's<br />

taking zero off. Make it look beautiful<br />

without a lot of effort, still using the tools<br />

in my craft and it's still there. So that's<br />

what's gorgeous about the combination<br />

of what's happening is that there's these<br />

‘new age ‘coatings that are already here.<br />

But as coating companies start to learn<br />

how to market them and start pushing<br />

out the old coatings and bringing in this<br />

new technology, it is not going to take the<br />

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craftsmanship out of the craft, it's just going<br />

to be a new mindset.<br />

JR: That leads back to customary<br />

retention and memberships, that so<br />

complements that category.<br />

DG: Are you<br />

?<br />

allowed to reveal<br />

any part of the<br />

formula of these<br />

new coatings that<br />

you've mentioned?<br />

RD: I wish I could, I could take and find<br />

out, because you know when we tested it,<br />

we had a scientist here with us and I understood<br />

about 4 percent of what he said.<br />

You know I know the ingredients, and this<br />

is what's cool, there's a lot more content.<br />

So, before it was a chemical carrier, now<br />

it's going over to solid carriers. And what<br />

that means is when you go from a chemical<br />

carrier to a solid carrier, is that A. that<br />

solid carrier isn't as dangerous, so it's safer<br />

Renny Doyle<br />

for the installer. B. You get a lot more of<br />

the goodies, the protective values that stay<br />

behind, because you're not just wiping<br />

away a bunch of carriers, the solids are<br />

attaching to the vehicle and then also the<br />

way it attaches. So, these new coatings are<br />

not only better for the consumer, and safer<br />

for the installer, it's a lot easier to put on<br />

and we're getting away from these nonsense<br />

statements because we're finding<br />

out now that coatings are just like<br />

anything. They don't last forever.<br />

They're susceptible to chemicals,<br />

they're susceptible to abrasion<br />

and they do need maintenance.<br />

German militaries used coatings<br />

on the tanks, so sticky bombs<br />

wouldn't stick to the tanks back<br />

in the 1940s. They were putting<br />

coatings on tanks way back then.<br />

The Golden Gate Bridge has got a<br />

coating on it, the Brooklyn Bridge has<br />

got a coating on it, so coatings aren't new.<br />

It's just that they finally were able to take<br />

and make them to where they are able to<br />

look beautiful.<br />

?<br />

DG:<br />

You said,<br />

“German tanks,”<br />

is that right?<br />

RD: Yes, what was happening<br />

was the allied forces were putting these<br />

sticky bombs on the German tanks. They<br />

could blow the tanks up. Well, this made<br />

the tank surface, where stuff just didn't stick<br />

to it easily. You actually had hit the tank<br />

instead of just blowing it up. You know<br />

all these different coating technologies --<br />

we've watched it evolve and it's just getting<br />

better and better, but a lot of people fear it,<br />

but I think it's awesome. You've got a major<br />

manufacturer. You've got a representative<br />

for one of the leading pad companies in<br />

the world, all telling us, hey, this is a good<br />

direction. It's not a bad direction as long as<br />

you've got the right eyes on it.<br />

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VOL. 8, NO.2 • SUMMER <strong>2023</strong> | AUTO DETAILING NEWS | 27


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