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from their software have been super helpful<br />

to all shops at all levels across the board<br />

for that reason.<br />

RD: There's where knowing your numbers<br />

comes in, because then you can get<br />

into being just a wash service. …[We tried<br />

it where customers] paid a-flat per month<br />

per car, but it was a high number even<br />

back then, and there's maybe five markets<br />

in the entire country that could withstand<br />

such charges. Then understanding that<br />

you have to be connected, so we didn't sell<br />

the membership, our customers did. We<br />

made it very sought-after…<br />

DG: Are there any<br />

?<br />

upcoming trends for<br />

vehicles you think will<br />

impact the detailing<br />

industry? I looked at car<br />

trends for <strong>2023</strong> and there were<br />

lots of things going on and<br />

proposed.<br />

RD: Jason's got a really good answer. I was<br />

just talking to the Griot’s guys when they<br />

were here. You'd be a person on this because<br />

you're now on the front-line of what's<br />

happening with the paints and so forth.<br />

JR: I wrote three things that are trending<br />

that are going to definitely impact detailers.<br />

The first one, which I've been tracking<br />

for about six years now, is the paint<br />

thickness. So, paint thickness coming out<br />

of the car factories as a trend is getting<br />

thinner and thinner every new model<br />

year and I don't know when they're going<br />

to stop. But it is definitely getting thinner<br />

and thinner. For example, a few weeks<br />

ago we had a class at my academy and<br />

a rental car, it was a brand-new Toyota<br />

Tacoma truck and it had 3.2 Mils on<br />

it. Which 3 Mils, for those people that<br />

know, is like a line in the sand. Where<br />

you're going to say, “I'm not going to<br />

do anything aggressive on this paint.”<br />

So this was a brand-new car. It had 50<br />

something miles on it. So, it was scary. So<br />

that's one trend that I think every detailer<br />

and I personally have been on a soapbox<br />

just every chance I get trying to tell<br />

people, because all of our products and<br />

procedures are getting more aggressive.<br />

So, the polishing systems are all getting<br />

stronger and stronger, compounds are<br />

getting stronger, pads are getting better<br />

and faster, tools are getting stronger.<br />

If you combine those two trends,<br />

our systems are getting more effective<br />

and efficient and faster<br />

and deeper and better. And<br />

then the paint's getting thinner<br />

and thinner. We as a detailing<br />

community, if every<br />

time we touch a car, if we thin<br />

out the paint that much further,<br />

it's a setup for people to burn<br />

through paint and I predict that<br />

the incidents of detailers burning<br />

through paint or damaging paint while<br />

they're trying to repair paint is going to<br />

increase. So, for me that's trend number<br />

one.<br />

The other trend that's happening is the<br />

car factories are beginning to experiment<br />

and explore with ceramic-infused clearcoat.<br />

So, the aftermarket and the detailers<br />

that are, you know, having a heyday, riding<br />

this wave with paint coatings, it's happening<br />

that the car factories are going to<br />

kick out cars with that kind of protection<br />

built into the clearcoat. I still think there'll<br />

be a market for aftermarket detailing and<br />

putting on extra protection on top of that.<br />

But it is going to make ‘muddy waters’ in<br />

terms of what the consumer and the car<br />

owner believes, because they're going to<br />

think, “Well, I already have this protection<br />

from the factory. Why do I need your extra<br />

protection?” So that's one other thing.<br />

And then the third thing I wrote is<br />

robots, because at Automechanika in Europe,<br />

and even at SEMA, I’m seeing more<br />

and more companies that are developing<br />

technology that are robotic, automated,<br />

sanding and polishing systems. If you kind<br />

of look into the future and you take that<br />

and extrapolate it further into the crystal<br />

ball, I do see in our future that there are<br />

going to be detailing stations that you'll<br />

be able to drive-in and have robots polish<br />

your car. I think it's coming…<br />

Justin Labato<br />

RD: What we're seeing in the trainings,<br />

for instance, is [my wife Diane] just went<br />

and bought a new Mazda and she had<br />

three exact make/models with option<br />

packages exactly the same… same color<br />

and she went through and took our paint<br />

gauge to the dealership. Two of the vehicles<br />

had under 3 Mils average, brand<br />

new. [The one she bought] was the only<br />

one that had a little over in that 3.1 to<br />

3.2 range. So, you know, both Jason and<br />

I have had conversations about this and<br />

so you're going to see this ...I think I think<br />

people are starting to wake up, but there’s<br />

still an audience that is selling perfection<br />

at all costs and I think that's you know,<br />

it's costly. You know they think we're<br />

old-fashioned, but what they don't understand<br />

is that it's not old-fashioned, we're<br />

putting science behind the words. So, for<br />

instance, we've got Michal Hill. Michael<br />

Hill is a physicist, and he’s part of our<br />

group. He does a lot of testing. Mercedes<br />

Benz is coming out with their new AMG<br />

model, and he says the clearcoat is again<br />

infused with ceramics. They're going to<br />

start marketing that very thin, but very<br />

hard. Well, that's a deadly combination<br />

because people are going to get aggressive<br />

with it to get things out, but they're not<br />

going to realize they can go through very<br />

easily. I echo that with Jason.<br />

Number 2, is, I think, the trend and<br />

we're going all over the country this next<br />

year, and it's called Coatings, Coffees and<br />

Profits. And one of the things that we're<br />

really trying to propel to shops is basically<br />

machine-less services. More and more,<br />

especially as the economy is now starting<br />

to really struggle, we're really pushing seasonal<br />

coatings instead of just going out<br />

and doing these ridiculous claim coatings<br />

and services that don't need a tool, touch<br />

to paint is for two reasons: A. lot of people<br />

don't know the difference. B. You're<br />

seeing these really thin paint systems and<br />

then, lastly, it's very attractive to the consumer<br />

because your price point can be<br />

far more attractive. Yet you get the<br />

protection and added benefit of<br />

shine and perfection. You’re going<br />

to see the more progressive<br />

shops and again not necessarily<br />

the addicted-to-shine shops,<br />

I’m talking about people who<br />

are really looking at the market,<br />

what they can sell and what people<br />

will buy. The entrepreneurs<br />

are going to see there's great value in<br />

selling services that don't even include<br />

touching paint with a machine, and it<br />

could be exactly what Justin said. Again,<br />

your quarterly or your, your seasonal<br />

updates, I love that, and you know that's<br />

what we're pushing in in these new events,<br />

get the paint perfect, go ahead, do all the<br />

paint correction and once that's done with<br />

the base coating that you put on, now it's<br />

all about cleansing that coating and then<br />

putting another layer on seasonally to<br />

protect that coating. So, I think that's a<br />

trend that you're going to start, hopefully<br />

seeing, because I think it's badly needed.<br />

The other thing that I think is really<br />

cool is the trend is there's a lot more<br />

entrepreneurial-based businesses coming<br />

into play, meaning that there are people<br />

coming in the new generation of shops.<br />

They're not addicted to the shine, like<br />

the current or past generations. They are<br />

looking at this as a business opportunity<br />

and honestly, it's propelling our industry<br />

at a level that is amazing, and so finally<br />

we're starting to draw those, and that's<br />

when you draw in those types of people<br />

what it's doing too is its taking and changing<br />

the current and smart people in the<br />

industry, the ones who are really watching<br />

carefully. It's taking some of those ‘oldway<br />

thinkers’ and turning them into entrepreneurial<br />

thinkers, and it's really cool.<br />

JL: Back in regard to the thin paint subject,<br />

I have a term that I use called “repair<br />

value” and once you start to have<br />

little meat on the bone, there's less “repair<br />

value.” You can't revisit that area, that<br />

designated area for any type of repair.<br />

You know it's going back to the, “I got<br />

a scratch on my hood. Can you get that<br />

out?” Well, yes, we can get it out and we<br />

24 | AUTO DETAILING NEWS | VOL. 8, NO. 2 • SUMMER <strong>2023</strong>

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