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JANUARY 2012 ○ THE BUGLE ○ www.thebugle.eu<br />

16 ♦ LETTERS TO THE EDITOR<br />

Letters to<br />

<strong>The</strong><br />

Editor<br />

More response to Little England debate<br />

Steve Buckley<br />

By Email<br />

Dear Editor,<br />

I<br />

always read the letters<br />

page of <strong>The</strong> <strong>Bugle</strong><br />

with interest, to learn<br />

of other people's experiences<br />

and also to try and<br />

avoid some of the mistakes<br />

that others have made during<br />

their time in France. I<br />

have disagreed a number<br />

of times with some of the<br />

ideas expressed but never<br />

enough to be motivated to<br />

write, until now!<br />

<strong>The</strong> letter complaining<br />

about the cost of living<br />

here really got to me. It<br />

is true that some things<br />

are more expensive here<br />

like paint and tools, but<br />

I have found them to be<br />

better quality. As for food,<br />

the budget we set aside<br />

for food each month has<br />

never been exceeded in<br />

two and half years of living<br />

here. All the supermarkets<br />

run offers at certain<br />

times and that is when<br />

we stock up. Buying the<br />

cheaper cuts of meat and<br />

making casseroles and<br />

stews is economical and<br />

Nigel Yeldham<br />

By Email<br />

Firstly, I would like to say how<br />

much I agree with both your<br />

correspondents under your<br />

headline 'Little England' in your<br />

December letters section. An effort to<br />

integrate is vitally important and I do<br />

wish that TV programmes and glossy<br />

magazines could be stopped from<br />

pedalling the myth that Mr Stringwell<br />

speaks of. I appreciate they are trying to<br />

sell a product but at the very best they are<br />

economical with the truth. People may<br />

they are very tasty. <strong>The</strong><br />

supermarket own brands<br />

here are also worth trying<br />

as we find them better<br />

than their UK cousins.<br />

We have not, and will not,<br />

use the online shopping<br />

service, because we feel<br />

that paying the TVA is<br />

part of our contribution<br />

to the French economy,<br />

and helps keep the society<br />

running that we enjoy<br />

being a part of so much.<br />

<strong>The</strong> acknowledgement<br />

by your contributor last<br />

month that we may have<br />

better value land and<br />

housing, some!!! cheaper<br />

wine, and probably pay<br />

less in local taxes appeared<br />

to be grudging at<br />

best. <strong>The</strong> wines are exceptional<br />

value if you avoid<br />

the brands and try some<br />

of the less well-known regions<br />

that can be very well<br />

priced. When was the last<br />

time a medal winning wine<br />

was available in Britain at<br />

£1.30 a bottle? Our house<br />

would have cost at least 4<br />

times the price in England<br />

and our local taxes, electricity<br />

and water charges<br />

are almost 30% less than<br />

in the UK. <strong>The</strong>se are significant<br />

benefits and sav-<br />

become disillusioned and unhappy when<br />

they discover that their money does not<br />

go as far as they were led to believe by<br />

the media.<br />

More importantly, my thanks to Mrs<br />

Quinn for her letter, and indeed you for<br />

publishing it, because I too had been<br />

'had' when I checked following her<br />

advice. I believe that Orange's behaviour<br />

is scandalous. I have no idea whether I<br />

received an email because I tend to treat<br />

the almost daily emails from them as junk.<br />

<strong>You</strong>rs sincerely,<br />

Nigel Yeldham<br />

ings and I think everyone<br />

should spend the maximum<br />

they can in their local<br />

economy. We still get<br />

tea bags when we are in<br />

the UK as my wife has<br />

not discovered a French<br />

version she likes yet (has<br />

anyone else?) I only drink<br />

coffee and the supermarket<br />

own brand here is<br />

more to my taste than Nescafe.<br />

We love our French<br />

life and like your other<br />

contributor last month<br />

we are trying to fully integrate,<br />

although we are<br />

struggling to come to<br />

grips with the language.<br />

While putting keyboard<br />

to email I also have a suggestion<br />

for your reader<br />

who is having problems<br />

with his UK pensions exchange<br />

rates. I am only<br />

guessing but I think he<br />

took the decision to have<br />

his pensions converted<br />

on a monthly basis by the<br />

government in the UK<br />

when he moved here, or<br />

began to receive his pensions.<br />

We were given a<br />

choice and opted to have<br />

our pensions paid into a<br />

UK bank account in sterling.<br />

We then move money<br />

in bulk at a time of our<br />

choosing and get the best<br />

rate we can at the time. If<br />

your writer still has a sterling<br />

account in the UK I<br />

would suggest he ask the<br />

UK government if he can<br />

change his original decision<br />

and have his pensions<br />

paid in sterling in future.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re are plenty of companies<br />

around who will<br />

change the money for you<br />

at very reasonable rates<br />

and low commission and<br />

at least that puts you in<br />

control of the situation.<br />

For what it is worth the<br />

days of 1.60 euro to the<br />

pound may never return<br />

and it is probably best to<br />

work on 1.10 and then<br />

anything more than that is<br />

a bonus. Who knows, we<br />

might be back to Francs<br />

next year if the euro's illustrious<br />

leaders don't<br />

make a decision soon.<br />

That's off the soap box<br />

for now, cheer up everyone<br />

the weather is lovely.<br />

(ED I think you mean<br />

was!)<br />

Regards,<br />

Spam scam involving Orange<br />

Dear Sir<br />

Following our<br />

t e l e p h o n e<br />

conversation the<br />

other day, I have pleasure<br />

in sending you a photocopy<br />

of a scam email purporting<br />

to be from France Orange.<br />

As I said, they have already<br />

confirmed that it is a scam.<br />

If you look at the top<br />

Steve Buckley<br />

Steph Willetts<br />

By Email<br />

Dear Ed.<br />

Edward Friend<br />

By Mail<br />

Thank you to George Stringwell<br />

whose letter 'hit the nail', endorsed<br />

our feelings re the cost<br />

of living in France v. UK and validated<br />

reasons for personal shopping for our<br />

groceries (there is no difference here<br />

between countries importing their comestibles<br />

from other countries instead<br />

of using home produced goods).<br />

Thank you also to 'Anonymous'<br />

Brian Richman<br />

By Email<br />

Dear Editor,<br />

of the email you can see<br />

that it is sent by someone<br />

with an Arabic name, but<br />

from a website in Tuvalu,<br />

Polynesia!!??<br />

Below this page was a<br />

form to fill in with one's RIB<br />

and we should be grateful if<br />

you would inform readers of<br />

what is occurring.<br />

<strong>You</strong>rs sincerely<br />

Edward Friend<br />

Having read the two letters in the<br />

<strong>No</strong>vember issue, I feel moved<br />

to write to your excellent paper.<br />

Firstly, let me start by saying I am<br />

firmly in the same camp as Anonymous.<br />

We moved to France in 2008, and<br />

made it our business to improve our<br />

French and to integrate into the French<br />

community as quickly as possible. This<br />

we have done very successfully, which<br />

was, of course, subject to the normal<br />

French system of calendars set at six,<br />

twelve and twenty-four months!<br />

I totally disagree with Mr Stringwell<br />

in most aspects. Yes, DIY products,<br />

electrical goods and some clothing is<br />

very expensive here, but he is totally<br />

wrong about day-to-day living. He<br />

admits that local taxation is “rather less”<br />

here; rather an understatement, when<br />

our local taxes and water have fallen<br />

by a factor of four, for a larger property.<br />

Day-to-day shopping is certainly no<br />

more expensive than the UK, if you<br />

shop around, use the promotions<br />

sensibly and eat seasonally; after all,<br />

does one really need strawberries in the<br />

middle of winter?<br />

I wonder what Mr Stringwell’s<br />

attitude would have been if, when<br />

living in the UK, he noticed truckloads<br />

of goods arriving on a weekly basis<br />

for endorsing our feelings re Little<br />

Britain. My only concern is that he<br />

speaks of xenophobia and racist<br />

emails, demonstrating the French are<br />

as human (or 'inhuman') as the rest of<br />

us.<br />

We moved here some years ago,<br />

to be close to members of my family<br />

who chose to quit Britain 20 years<br />

ago or more, when the Limousin was<br />

still a Virgin and even the French considered<br />

it their 'Coventry'... only the<br />

exiled (verb 'limoger') came here with<br />

nary a loud, English-speaking Brit in<br />

sight!<br />

Sadly, we joined the ranks of im-<br />

ED - I am regulary contacted<br />

by readers about scams similar<br />

to this. Some are more<br />

sophisticated than others,<br />

but the common factor is always<br />

the same: the promise<br />

of a small re-imbursement<br />

for an overpayment. It is<br />

VERY UNLIKELY that Orange<br />

will ever contact you<br />

like this about a refund. Keep<br />

your wits about you and most<br />

importantly NEVER part<br />

with financial information by<br />

email... EVER!!<br />

from Eastern Europe or Asia, to allow<br />

immigrants NOT to have to shop at<br />

Tesco. I suspect he would have said that<br />

the immigrants are doing nothing to<br />

assist the local economy – and he would<br />

have been correct. I am also aware of<br />

some British people getting bread and<br />

cheese from UK supermarkets – if<br />

that isn’t a case of “taking coals to<br />

Newcastle” I don’t know what is.<br />

Like most rural communities, the<br />

French are very tolerant and friendly,<br />

but they do resent foreigners who only<br />

appear during the summer months,<br />

who buy all their shopping from<br />

another country, who refuse to learn<br />

the language and shout and gesticulate<br />

instead, and also who constantly<br />

criticise everything about the country<br />

they have chosen to live in.<br />

<strong>The</strong> French also resent seeing some<br />

of their bars become British drinking<br />

places, full of loud-mouthed, shavenheaded<br />

men and large tattooed women<br />

shouting and swearing. Luckily, there<br />

are many bars and restaurants who<br />

discourage such custom by refusing to<br />

understand English.<br />

Of course, France has its faults,<br />

as anyone who has had to deal with<br />

France Telecom will know, but I doubt<br />

it is any worse than UK telephone<br />

companies. <strong>The</strong> French health service<br />

is vastly superior to the British health<br />

service, despite having to make some<br />

contribution.<br />

As you may now be aware, we would<br />

never want to return to the UK, other<br />

than to visit relatives and friends and are<br />

completely happy and contented here in<br />

France.<br />

<strong>You</strong>rs sincerely,<br />

Brian Richman<br />

(a resident of the Limousin)<br />

migrants, but we learned the language,<br />

communed with nos voisins<br />

and discovered that the French are no<br />

different to anyone else in their prejudices....<br />

<strong>You</strong>rs sincerely,<br />

Steph Willetts

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