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31420-12-1 SAWRIDGE, Indian vs. ROLAND, Twinn et al

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1 membership process and chief and council is moving through membership applications in<br />

2 anorderly, appropriate way, that the Sawridge Trustees can genuinely look at that, do<br />

3 their due diligence, and say we know -- we know that individu<strong>al</strong>s who are qu<strong>al</strong>ified for<br />

4 membership are going to be recognized as members at some point over the course of this<br />

5 process. Versus trying to avoid what may indeed be a bit of an awkward issue, because<br />

6 ofthe history of the membership disputes in the Sawridge community, and then end up<br />

7 back in a situation where the trust cannot function because of some of the administrative<br />

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problems that could arise.<br />

10 And, My Lord, it’s, I think appropriate to direct the Court’s attention at this point to the<br />

11 order of the relief we’re seeking in this regard. And I -- we’ve de<strong>al</strong>t with that on page 31<br />

<strong>12</strong> of our origin<strong>al</strong> brief. We’re hoping to be permitted to ask for information around the<br />

13 number of pending Sawridge membership applications, including sufficient particulars to<br />

14 d<strong>et</strong>ermine wh<strong>et</strong>her the pending applications affect the interests of any minors. That’s, of<br />

15 course, of paramount concern to the Public Trustee if it is indeed appointed as litigation<br />

16 representative. We don’t know what the current status is, but we know in the past there<br />

17 have been possibly hundreds of applications that are outstanding. It stands to reason that<br />

18 we likely have minors who are affected by those applications. The Public Trustee would<br />

19 need to be able to examine that to d<strong>et</strong>ermine what in fact -- what group they were in fact<br />

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representing, My Lord.<br />

22 Secondly, the d<strong>et</strong>ails of the current Sawridge band membership criteria and process<br />

23 including who makes membership decisions and norm<strong>al</strong> timeframes for making<br />

24 membership decisions. Those matters, My Lord, are not -- not being delved into to try<br />

25 and launch a Constitution<strong>al</strong> ch<strong>al</strong>lenge, not being delved into to try and launch individu<strong>al</strong><br />

26 membership entitlement claims. They would be delved into, My Lord, to d<strong>et</strong>ermine<br />

27 wh<strong>et</strong>her or not we’ve got certainty of objects is being de<strong>al</strong>t with and wh<strong>et</strong>her or not the<br />

28 Sawridge Trustees under this proposed new definition could me<strong>et</strong> their obligations to<br />

29 identify and d<strong>et</strong>ermine <strong>al</strong>l members of the class before they conduct any form of<br />

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distribution from the trust.<br />

32 And then the third point, My Lord, is to be able to inquire what steps (INDISCERNIBLE)<br />

33 been taken to date by the Sawridge Trustees to look into those matters in order -- in other<br />

34 words, is it currently function<strong>al</strong> for the Sawridge Trustees with this proposed definition to<br />

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me<strong>et</strong> their duties, to identify -- to identify the entire class of beneficiaries, My Lord?<br />

37 My Lord, I’m just -- I’d just refer the Court to our reply submission where we respond to<br />

38 some of our friends’ comments on relevance of questions on membership. And that<br />

39 portion of our brief runs from paragraph 62 through to paragraph 78. Turning to<br />

40 paragraph 72 of that submission, My Lord, we certainly noted that in paragraph <strong>12</strong>3 of the<br />

41 Sawridge Trustees’ brief they appear to acknowledge and accept that there is some duty to

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