31420-12-1 SAWRIDGE, Indian vs. ROLAND, Twinn et al
31420-12-1 SAWRIDGE, Indian vs. ROLAND, Twinn et al
31420-12-1 SAWRIDGE, Indian vs. ROLAND, Twinn et al
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1 obligation to present <strong>al</strong>l of those arguments before the Court. So this is not a situation<br />
2 where there will be no representation of those children, because those 23 children are in<br />
3 fact beneficiaries of the trust currently. So it’s re<strong>al</strong>ly not a situation where -- where we’re<br />
4 asking to add them so that in fact the trust would be diluted. They are currently<br />
5 beneficiaries of the trust. And so as beneficiaries, the trustees have an obligation to<br />
6 represent them and put their arguments forward. As they will with <strong>al</strong>l of the affected<br />
7 groups: The Bill C-31s and the wives of First Nations men who <strong>al</strong>so will be removed<br />
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from the definition. So we expect that <strong>al</strong>l of those arguments will be there.<br />
10 In respect of the other people who may be putting arguments forward, we do <strong>al</strong>so have<br />
11 Sawridge band, Sawridge First Nation, who will be at the table and has a very unique and<br />
<strong>12</strong> good perspective and insight. And they will <strong>al</strong>so be presenting arguments in respect of<br />
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the various impacts of the change in definition.<br />
15 We <strong>al</strong>so have the Feder<strong>al</strong> Crown who we understand will be involved in the application<br />
16 throughout. The Feder<strong>al</strong> Crown, in fact, has jurisdiction over children who live on<br />
17 reserves. And so -- and we know that the Feder<strong>al</strong> Crown, from <strong>al</strong>l the cases that have<br />
18 been put forward, have been involved with Sawridge throughout <strong>al</strong>l of the applications<br />
19 that have been, or -- and <strong>al</strong>l of the litigation that has been before the Court. So they have<br />
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a unique perspective. They have unique knowledge. And they will <strong>al</strong>so be here.<br />
22 Lots has been said about the parents. We have noticed in the cases that have been cited<br />
23 by the Public Trustee that those -- that in most cases the parents were there and asking the<br />
24 Public Trustee to be involved. We don’t know if parents will be here. Ithink it’s fair to<br />
25 say that maybe we would have heard from them by now if they would have been here, if<br />
26 they intended to be involved. And we’ve heard from none of them. And I take<br />
27 Ms. Hutchison’s position that perhaps their silence is that they are happy to have the<br />
28 Public Trustee involved. We don’t know that. Perhaps their silence is that they don’t<br />
29 want to pay to have the Public Trustee involved. But I do think that the parents are still<br />
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an important factor and they should be given that opportunity to come forward.<br />
32 And fin<strong>al</strong>ly, the Court has its own parens patriae power. And it can exercise it. And it<br />
33 certainly does. And we can see from the cases cited, the sterilization case and others, that<br />
34 the Court does exercise that power and is asked to exercise that power. And that power is<br />
35 to not just sit and listen but to say, I need to understand and make sure that children are<br />
36 not going to be impacted negatively and make sure that the power is exercised. So it is<br />
37 our submission that there are <strong>al</strong>ready, even without the Public Trustee, sever<strong>al</strong> people at<br />
38 the table who will be putting forward arguments on beh<strong>al</strong>f of the children and -- and so<br />
39 those arguments will be before the Court. It’s not as though those arguments will not be<br />
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before the Court.