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31420-12-1 SAWRIDGE, Indian vs. ROLAND, Twinn et al

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F31<br />

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2 Where we look at the L.C. case which is <strong>al</strong>so referred to at paragraph 85, which is a<br />

3 decision of Mr. Justice Graesser, it’s <strong>al</strong>so referred to at Tab 9 where the costs are<br />

4 awarded, and then they were -- it was reversed at Tab 10. So I think it’s important when<br />

5 welook at the L.C. case, in paragraph 85 it refers you to Tab 9, but it’s important to then<br />

6<br />

7<br />

gotoTab 10 to see that basic<strong>al</strong>ly that case has been overturned.<br />

8 I’m just going to take a few minutes to address some of the or<strong>al</strong> arguments my friend<br />

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10<br />

made, and then I’ll be finished. And I don’t want to be rep<strong>et</strong>itious.<br />

11 With respect to the Thomlinson case, my friend made reference to the Thomlinson case<br />

<strong>12</strong> which is the case in which there was an application made to have a case go forward and<br />

13 represent anumber of children who were taken into care. And the interesting thing about<br />

14 the Thomlinson case, which we had said in our brief, is that first of <strong>al</strong>l -- first of <strong>al</strong>l, this<br />

15 is de<strong>al</strong>ing with children who were wards of the court and thus parents weren’t involved,<br />

16 but ultimately there was no costs award in the Thomlinson case. The court said they<br />

17 could apply, but that case never went forward. And I think that is telling in the sense that<br />

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19<br />

the court said you still have to me<strong>et</strong> the test. You have to come back and apply.<br />

20 THE COURT: Which tab is Thomlinson at? Just refresh my<br />

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22<br />

memory.<br />

23 MS. BONORA:<br />

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22 of the Public Trustee’s.<br />

25 THE COURT:<br />

26<br />

Public Trustee. Yes.<br />

27 MS. BONORA:<br />

28<br />

Thank you.<br />

29 THE COURT:<br />

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Just l<strong>et</strong> me -- I just want to look at it again.<br />

31 I just wanted to look at the name of the applicant again. There’s sort of a common string<br />

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in <strong>al</strong>ot of these cases.<br />

34 MS. BONORA:<br />

35<br />

Oh, yes. It is.<br />

36 So those, I think I now have addressed anything I wanted to in respect to the or<strong>al</strong><br />

37 arguments. And so it is our conclusion that, obviously, that we don’t think there’s<br />

38 necessarily aneed for a litigation representative, but certainly we don’t think the Public<br />

39 Trustee me<strong>et</strong>s the test for advance costs. And thus, if they intend to be involved, then<br />

40 costs can be addressed at the end of the day. And certainly the arguments on beh<strong>al</strong>f of<br />

41 children we believe will be ably made during the course of the main application.

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