31420-12-1 SAWRIDGE, Indian vs. ROLAND, Twinn et al
31420-12-1 SAWRIDGE, Indian vs. ROLAND, Twinn et al
31420-12-1 SAWRIDGE, Indian vs. ROLAND, Twinn et al
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2 Inparagraphs 25 to 34 of their brief, they raise these concerns about the minors losing<br />
3 their rights and the fact that these issues need to be addressed. And I would submit that<br />
4 absolutely those are going to be the main issues addressed. Obviously that’s a significant<br />
5 issue for these minors to lose their rights in -- as beneficiaries. It’s <strong>al</strong>so significant that<br />
6 the Bill C-31 women are discriminated against, and what will be the solution to do this.<br />
7 And it is our submission that at the end of the day there is going to probably be one<br />
8 group that will be unhappy in terms of being taken out as beneficiaries of this trust, but<br />
9 the one solution that has been put forward and the one solution that will be before you is<br />
10 that if we change the definition to make members beneficiaries, then everybody is put on<br />
11 equ<strong>al</strong> footing in the sense that everyone then can apply to be a member and then can<br />
<strong>12</strong> obtain benefits from the trust. And so while they may be discriminated against, maybe<br />
13 they’ll be taken out as beneficiaries, it’s not as though they don’t have the opportunity to<br />
14 g<strong>et</strong> back in. So it’s not a fin<strong>al</strong> d<strong>et</strong>ermination. Because if they have a connection to the<br />
15 band, if they fit the membership criteria, then they will g<strong>et</strong> in. I’m not suggesting for a<br />
16 minute that it still isn’t a difficult and hard issue or decision to say, Yes, but I’m going to<br />
17 take away your rights as a beneficiary and then just give you the opportunity. But it’s<br />
18 <strong>al</strong>so avery difficult decision to say, Well, we’re just going to keep discriminating against<br />
19 the Bill C-31 women. So I would suggest that while it’s not a complex argument, it<br />
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certainly will be before the Court.<br />
22 I’d like to address paragraph 57 of the reply brief because there are, in my submission,<br />
23 some troubling submissions made. So first it says that, in the second sentence:The Court<br />
24 is faced with a situation where there is no party willing to represent the interests of<br />
25 minors in relation to an application that will have significant financi<strong>al</strong> and soci<strong>al</strong> impacts.<br />
26 And I would say that’s not true because the trustees have an obligation to put their<br />
27 arguments forward. And Iapologize for being rep<strong>et</strong>itious, but I do want to address the<br />
28 arguments that have been made. And certainly, as I said, <strong>al</strong>l the other parties will <strong>al</strong>so be<br />
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involved.<br />
31 It goes on to say that: The Public Trustee does not have a budg<strong>et</strong> to fund representation<br />
32 of minors. They have no statutory duty to represent. But I would say that there is no<br />
33 evidence of that, and certainly I think it was incumbent on the Office of the Public<br />
34 Trustee to put that in evidence and not just put it into an argument. Certainly if that had<br />
35 been put into an affidavit, there would have been some opportunity to explore this further<br />
36 and d<strong>et</strong>ermine if, in fact, you know, in the fisc<strong>al</strong> year there is no budg<strong>et</strong> to represent these<br />
37 kind of minors in this kind of litigation. But obviously the Public Trustee has a mandate<br />
38 and abudg<strong>et</strong> to represent minors. That is obviously the case. That is their mandate. So<br />
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I don’t think that simple statement can be relied on without evidence.<br />
41 The -- in addition, it says in paragraph 57 that minors can be assumed to have no