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Interview<br />

Busschbach<br />

to our difficult situation.’ He then tells<br />

me to the side: ‘As if anyone would<br />

care that we would be abolished, but<br />

we all were still very idealistic ’. He<br />

then continued the story: ‘I can still<br />

remember that it was a very cold and<br />

hard winter. We went out in the middle<br />

of the night of course because it was<br />

completely illegal. We did not want<br />

to be seen by the police. And so we<br />

had these leaflets and we also had a<br />

waste bag with glue in it, but it was so<br />

freezing that the glue actually froze<br />

inside of the bag so we really had to<br />

stop after two or three hours! We were<br />

so cold!’<br />

Professor Liebregts goes on: As a<br />

second way of getting attention we<br />

also wanted to occupy the building of<br />

the Classical department, but we were<br />

very very polite and we first asked<br />

permission from the caretaker of the<br />

building whether he would allow us to<br />

have a sleep over. We were granted<br />

permission and we took our sleeping<br />

bags and we were off to the Classical<br />

department. I can still remember that I<br />

spent two nights in the office of my<br />

professor of Latin. He adds: ‘the<br />

caretaker was such a nice man; he<br />

stopped by the second night to see<br />

whether we were still okay and<br />

whether we needed anything. We on<br />

the other hand were trying to be<br />

fearless and wanting to make a point<br />

we were OCCUPYING the building!<br />

That shows that no one took it actually<br />

very seriously!<br />

As a last attempt we also wrote a letter<br />

in Latin to the pope in Rome to explain<br />

the situation and whether he could<br />

actually prevent the minister of<br />

education of abolishing our<br />

department and we actually got an<br />

answer from the Vatican! Well, not<br />

the pope himself of course but one of<br />

his spokespersons who said that ‘The<br />

pope regrets that these languages will<br />

no longer be able to be studied in<br />

Utrecht but I hope that you will<br />

understand that the pope has no say<br />

in these matters and cannot intervene<br />

in what seems to be a government<br />

affair.’ So in the end the department<br />

closed down and I was really one of<br />

the last to still graduate in Utrecht. The<br />

rest had to go to Leiden, Amsterdam<br />

or Nijmegen.’<br />

After these fabulous anecdotes I<br />

asked him a bit about his job ‘What<br />

does a Professor actually do?’<br />

‘Basically what I do are 3 things: one, I<br />

have my research, so like anyone else<br />

I have to write a number of articles or<br />

produce a certain amount of<br />

researches a year. I also have of<br />

course my amount of teaching which<br />

ranges from first year students to MA<br />

students. As a professor you are also<br />

involved in all sorts of levels of<br />

administration which includes<br />

implementing new plans for the<br />

faculty, trying to improve on the<br />

program, to meet on a regular basis<br />

with other chairs of faculty<br />

departments, and I have assessment<br />

talks with the people for whom I am<br />

responsible, let’s say the literature<br />

people, on a yearly basis. So there are<br />

a lot of meetings and committee work<br />

involved, as well as the writing of<br />

official letters and reports.’<br />

‘And which part do you like best?’<br />

‘Teaching!! I also like research very<br />

much, but I find it almost more like a<br />

private sort of thing. As a researcher<br />

you are far less public and in touch<br />

with people, with the exception of<br />

going to a conference or keeping up<br />

contacts with those experts with whom<br />

you can discuss your work. In this<br />

sense, I think teaching is a more fun<br />

thing to do because there is more<br />

social interaction and I simply like to<br />

teach. Teaching is the most direct form<br />

of being occupied with your<br />

profession.’<br />

‘And which part the least?’<br />

‘Administration, because these<br />

administrative meetings can take for<br />

hours and sometimes after a few<br />

hours you think what am I doing here?<br />

Of course sometimes decisions are<br />

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