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[Talabani] We cannot say not even those that are close to the parties. But no party<br />

member will fill the post of defense minister or interior minister. The remaining posts<br />

will be distributed among the groups forming the government.<br />

[Asharq Al Awsat] The other problem is that of the fate of the foreign minister. Sides<br />

other than the Kurdish side aspire to fill this post. Do you insist on this portfolio and in<br />

the person of Hoshyar Zebari?<br />

[Talabani] Zebari has demonstrated exceptional efficiency in performing his mission. He<br />

also has very good relations with the Arab countries to an extent that Colonel Gaddafi<br />

proposed him as secretary general of the Arab League. We believe that brother Hoshyar<br />

should be rewarded not penalized. Dismissing him from the ministry is a penalty and his<br />

stay is a reward since he demonstrated that he is a successful minister.<br />

[Asharq Al Awsat] I understand from your words that you insist on him and on the<br />

ministry.<br />

[Talabani] Yes, we believe that Zebari should remain in the foreign ministry since he is a<br />

successful minister and established very good relations on the Arab, regional, and<br />

international levels. We have to reward successful and qualified persons rather than to<br />

unjustly sentence them to exclusion.<br />

[Asharq Al Awsat] In other words, his remaining in office is a red line for you?<br />

[Talabani] As president of a republic, I do not like lines of any color and I do not wish to<br />

engage in such a discussion.<br />

[Asharq Al Awsat] What I wanted to say is that it is a condition to which you cling.<br />

[Talabani] Yes, we continue to cling to it to this moment.<br />

[Asharq Al Awsat] I understood that the price for giving up the foreign ministry is the oil<br />

ministry. Is that true?<br />

Sayfa 17

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