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any agreements. For instance, we have signed a strategic alliance with Turkey but we do<br />
not have such an agreement with Iran. Nevertheless, there is a clamor about Iranian<br />
influence (in Iraq). Moreover, the Iranian Kurdish opposition is present in Iraq. If you<br />
come to Al-Sulaymaniyah you can visit their headquarters: The Kurdish Democratic Party<br />
of Iran, Komeleh [The Kurdistan Organization of the Communist Party of Iran], the<br />
Iranian Communist Party, and others. The Iranians are not happy with this situation. We<br />
want good relations of neighborliness and equality with Iran; we do not want relations of<br />
submissive ness. We believe that our relations are between two equals. We have<br />
problems with Iran but we want to solve them through negotiations and dialogue.<br />
[Asharq Al Awsat] A number of Iraqi politicians have a different opinion about the<br />
relationship with Iran. For instance, describing this relationship two days ago, Saleh al-<br />
Mutlaq said that Tehran "sets the rules of the political game" in Baghdad. Are these<br />
fantasies?<br />
[Talabani] Yes, these are fantasies and an erroneous description of the nature of the<br />
relationship with Tehran. The Al-Iraqiya and its opponents are exchanging accusations<br />
but I do not believe that these accusations are correct. We have to be objective. We have<br />
to look at the facts and describe them as they are. For instance, Iran opposed the<br />
agreements that we signed with the United States (pertaining to the withdrawal of the<br />
US forces) and urged the Iraqis to reject them. However, these agreements were ratified<br />
in the Iraqi parliament. The prime minister appeared on television calling for their<br />
ratification and they were ratified unanimously. Therefore, accusing Iraq of<br />
submissiveness to Iran is an unjust charge. Furthermore, Iran believes and its<br />
propaganda insists on calling the United States the Great Satan. But we consider the<br />
United States as a friend and an ally. We want best relations with it and we have signed<br />
agreements with it. Therefore, we are on a totally different course with Iran regarding<br />
the United States. The question is: Are we in a relationship of submissiveness with Iran?<br />
No, we reject submissiveness to any state.<br />
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