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57 Debate on the Address<br />

9 MAY 2012<br />

Debate on the Address<br />

58<br />

We either believe in the case for less and better<br />

government, and more checks and balances in government<br />

—as a Conservative, I do; that Governments should be<br />

subject to checks and balances and accountability is a<br />

core Conservative belief—or we do not. My right hon.<br />

Friend the Leader of the House of Lords clearly does. I<br />

am delighted that the Government, from both Conservative<br />

and Liberal Democrat traditions, believe in the case for<br />

more effective checks and balances and accountability<br />

to <strong>Parliament</strong>. I look forward to the conversion of that<br />

big idea into precise legislation as the Session goes on.<br />

Mr Elfyn Llwyd (Dwyfor Meirionnydd) (PC): I am<br />

listening carefully to the right hon. Gentleman, who<br />

makes a strong case. I do not know what we will end up<br />

with, but does he agree that one way of improving the<br />

checks and balances would be through avoiding the<br />

strict timetabling of every single measure that comes<br />

before the House?<br />

Mr Dorrell: I have much sympathy for that point of<br />

view. I have been here for perhaps rather more years<br />

than I should, but I remember long debates when<br />

parliamentary scrutiny was more effective than it often<br />

is now. Before the last general election, there were<br />

repeated occasions on which complex legislation passed<br />

through on a timetable that suited the Government<br />

rather than provided for proper parliamentary scrutiny.<br />

There will be those—I am certainly among them—who<br />

will look for ways to strengthen the voice of the House<br />

of Commons, as we should. I agree with my right hon.<br />

Friend the Member for Bermondsey and Old Southwark<br />

(Simon Hughes), who referred to the strengthening<br />

during this <strong>Parliament</strong> of the Back-Bench voice, which<br />

has been a step forward and a good thing. However,<br />

those who look for effective checks within the legislature<br />

on Executive enthusiasms do well to look at another<br />

place as part of the answer to that, in addition to reform<br />

of House of Commons procedure.<br />

Therefore, to those in the Conservative party who<br />

ask, “Where is the Conservative provenance for House<br />

of Lords reform?” I say, “Read the history books.” I<br />

will certainly be uncomfortable if we are manoeuvred<br />

into a position in which we appear to defend what I<br />

regard as a wholly unacceptable Blairite compromise,<br />

which we opposed vigorously at the time of the legislative<br />

proposals at the beginning of the Labour Government.<br />

Having said all that, it is clearly true that such reform<br />

is an important internal process within the Westminster<br />

village, but not the key issue that our constituents look<br />

to the Government, the Queen’s Speech and the House<br />

to address. To again pick up a theme developed by my<br />

right hon. Friend the Member for Bermondsey and<br />

Old Southwark, we should remind ourselves that the<br />

Government are a coalition. Because they are a coalition,<br />

they have a large working majority in the House of<br />

Commons, which is a good thing in terms of the stability<br />

and strategic purpose it provides. However, the majority<br />

is more important in another respect: the two parties<br />

that make up the coalition have a broader electoral base<br />

in the community outside Westminster than has been<br />

the case for any recent Government. We have a stable<br />

Government with a clear purpose, which was redefined<br />

and re-emphasised in the Queen’s Speech and in the<br />

speech of my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister, and<br />

not just a Government cobbled together in the immediate<br />

aftermath of the last general election.<br />

At the very heart of the purpose of the coalition<br />

Government is the intention to create a stable economic<br />

base not merely to address the deficit, but to move on<br />

from that to create the environment in which growth<br />

begins to re-emerge, as the hon. Member for Hartlepool<br />

said. The purpose of economic policy is not to make the<br />

books balance—as the Prime Minister said over the<br />

weekend, it is not an exercise in accountancy—but to<br />

create the environment in which interest rates are low,<br />

confidence returns, and growth starts the process of<br />

creating jobs in the hon. Gentleman’s constituency and<br />

elsewhere.<br />

I find the argument of the shadow Chancellor wholly<br />

unpersuasive. He appears to believe that we lack a<br />

Government appetite to borrow. How a British Government<br />

deliver stability in the Europe of 2012 by building on<br />

their already excessive borrowing rate and building<br />

more borrowing into our public finances is simply beyond<br />

me. I believe that that is unrealistic, but more seriously,<br />

I also believe that the shadow Chancellor knows it is<br />

unrealistic. If he does, it is not only unrealistic, but dishonest.<br />

The purpose that brought the Government together,<br />

which enlists the support of every Conservative and<br />

Liberal Democrat Member of <strong>Parliament</strong>, is the prime<br />

objective of recreating economic stability to create growth,<br />

so that we can deliver the wealth required to deliver<br />

improving standards of living and improving public<br />

services. How do we do that? The hon. Member for<br />

Hartlepool argued that what we need is a state bank<br />

that would make better investment decisions than the<br />

private banking sector. I do not agree with that.<br />

What I do agree with are the two key Bills in the<br />

Queen’s Speech, one of which is the Bill on banking<br />

reform, to address some of the failings that have been<br />

identified, not just by politicians but by the Governor of<br />

the Bank of England last week and by many commentators.<br />

One of the learning experiences of the events of 2005-09<br />

was that the banking system did not have proper risk<br />

assurance to reduce the risks that the taxpayer ended up<br />

picking up. The process of banking reform is important<br />

and I welcome the fact that the Government are pressing<br />

forward with it.<br />

I also welcome the fact that the Government are<br />

pressing forward with the reform and accentuation of<br />

competition policy, because I strongly believe that, once<br />

the Government’s finances are under control, the real<br />

answer to the question of how to recreate growth,<br />

confidence and prosperity in the economy is through a<br />

banking system that works and a competitive, free-enterprise<br />

economy. That is at the heart of the Queen’s Speech. It<br />

has obvious provenance in the Conservative tradition,<br />

and it has equally obvious provenance in the Liberal<br />

Democrat tradition, and that is why this stream of ideas<br />

comes together to create a strong coalition Government.<br />

The Government are not, I am pleased to say, just<br />

about economics. They also have a broad-based programme<br />

for the reform of public service delivery—in which my<br />

right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education<br />

in particular is carrying forward a programme of reform<br />

that will deliver strong improvements in our school<br />

system and our wider education system as a result of<br />

the ideas that we share across the coalition. We also<br />

have a shared commitment to the promotion of<br />

environmental policies through the Green investment<br />

bank. That such ideas are shared across the coalition is<br />

the key point that I want to draw out of the Queen’s<br />

Speech.

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