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Cecil A. Partee Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield

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he was there. We joined him in 1967 after reapportionment and there were<br />

then Sour or five <strong>of</strong> us in the Senate.<br />

Q: I see.<br />

A: But he was a nice fellow.<br />

Q: In regard to grants to non-public schools, Senator Cherry introduced<br />

a bill in 1972, plus yourself and some 20 others, allowing these grants.<br />

you recall that situation?<br />

Do<br />

A: Yes, I do. The bills would benefit principally parochial and Catholic<br />

schools, I had the view that if, for example, there were no parochial or<br />

there were no Catholic schools, the cost <strong>of</strong> education <strong>of</strong> the children who<br />

were in those schools would, <strong>of</strong> course, be borne by the state. And we were<br />

always at a crisis situation in providing sufficient dollars for those<br />

youngsters who were in public schools. If we had to open up public schools<br />

to every single youngster in this state, including those who attended<br />

Cathalic schools, the bill would have been a great deal more money. So<br />

from a practical standpoint, and ecanamic standpoint, I felt it was justified<br />

to give some sort <strong>of</strong> subsidy or some money for the support <strong>of</strong> our<br />

parochial and Catholic schools.<br />

The question, <strong>of</strong> course, was not that simple. The other side <strong>of</strong> that<br />

question related to the constitutional impact <strong>of</strong> that question. Whether or<br />

not it was within the framework <strong>of</strong> constitutional province to do that.<br />

There is, <strong>of</strong> course, a very clear part <strong>of</strong> our constitution in terms <strong>of</strong><br />

separation <strong>of</strong> state from religion and there were thase who were opposed on<br />

the basis that this would be dollars from the state going to support a<br />

religion. That, <strong>of</strong> course, is a question that was litigated very, many<br />

times in our own Supreme Court and in the Supreme Court <strong>of</strong> the United<br />

States on various approaches to it. There were approaches to subsidizing<br />

the busing, there were approaches to purchasing and furnishing books.<br />

There were several questions that arose and were faced on an individual<br />

basis in that general area.<br />

Q: Yes. How did you get involved with that bill?<br />

A: Well, just as I've said, I thought that if we could, constitutionally,<br />

subsidize a portion <strong>of</strong> the expenses <strong>of</strong> the parochial schools, we would<br />

economically be saving a lot <strong>of</strong> money because it would mean that we would<br />

be spending a lot more if they closed, if all those parochial schools<br />

closed aqd all <strong>of</strong> those youngsters had to go into the public school system.<br />

Q: How was the idea <strong>of</strong> the bill started? Were you involved in coming up<br />

with the idea that there ought to be . . .<br />

A: No, I wasn't involved in the idea <strong>of</strong> coming up with it. I suppose<br />

the idea emanated from the Catholic schools, probably, throughout the state<br />

and particularly those in Chicago. We were importuned by the hierarchy <strong>of</strong>

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