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Letting of Contracts at Central TAFE Public Hearing AM session

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I think you also had the benefit <strong>of</strong> being with a government<br />

department th<strong>at</strong> had developed procurement procedures to a<br />

fairly high level?---Correct.<br />

I think was th<strong>at</strong> the Department <strong>of</strong> Justice?---Yes, th<strong>at</strong>'s<br />

right.<br />

They were quite advanced in their procedures and in their<br />

development <strong>of</strong> forms and systems for procurement?---Very<br />

much so.<br />

Th<strong>at</strong> was before you came to <strong>Central</strong> <strong>TAFE</strong>?---Yes, th<strong>at</strong>'s<br />

correct.<br />

Without using elabor<strong>at</strong>e language and just keeping it short,<br />

can you tell us wh<strong>at</strong> was the difference between wh<strong>at</strong> you<br />

saw <strong>at</strong> Department <strong>of</strong> Justice, where procurement was <strong>at</strong> a<br />

fairly high level, and wh<strong>at</strong> you observed <strong>at</strong> <strong>Central</strong> <strong>TAFE</strong><br />

when you first arrived? Was there a difference firstly?<br />

---It was polarised: opposite ends <strong>of</strong> the scale.<br />

So if Department <strong>of</strong> Justice was good, and I think you<br />

thought it was good - is th<strong>at</strong> right?---Yes.<br />

Wh<strong>at</strong> about <strong>Central</strong> <strong>TAFE</strong>'s procurement procedures?---One<br />

word: appalling.<br />

Now, around about wh<strong>at</strong> d<strong>at</strong>e was it th<strong>at</strong> you were making<br />

th<strong>at</strong> assessment? Wh<strong>at</strong> time?---August.<br />

August <strong>of</strong>?---02.<br />

02, right. Now, I think one <strong>of</strong> the reasons th<strong>at</strong> you were<br />

brought in was to try and improve the procurement<br />

procedures. Is th<strong>at</strong> correct?---Th<strong>at</strong>'s correct.<br />

Not just you but others as well. Is th<strong>at</strong> so?---The<br />

position th<strong>at</strong> I applied for would have had a number <strong>of</strong><br />

duties th<strong>at</strong> had to be maintained on a daily basis, weekly<br />

basis, wh<strong>at</strong>ever. It wasn't just to fix up, it was to do<br />

the work <strong>at</strong> the coalface and other - and other duties. The<br />

problem is there was no-one <strong>at</strong> the college who had a real<br />

clear understanding <strong>of</strong> wh<strong>at</strong> was required and the extent <strong>of</strong><br />

wh<strong>at</strong> was required, and it took a lot <strong>of</strong> campaigning by<br />

myself to get policies, procedures, up-to-d<strong>at</strong>e forms,<br />

templ<strong>at</strong>es in place et cetera, et cetera.<br />

Were those changes embraced? Embraced willingly?---Weren't<br />

embraced willingly. I - I was labelled as a procurement<br />

Nazi by the college in general because <strong>of</strong> the stance th<strong>at</strong> I<br />

took on ensuring th<strong>at</strong> processes were followed.<br />

Did the process improve over time or not?---It did. By the<br />

time I left we'd had a review <strong>of</strong> our branch, which I pushed<br />

pretty much on my own; had a independent consultant come in<br />

and look <strong>at</strong> the branch structure. We put in place more<br />

4/10/06 NICHOLSON, B.J. XN 212<br />

Spark & Cannon

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