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from the ground up - The Tyee

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Excerpts <strong>from</strong> <strong>the</strong> ensuing discussion in <strong>The</strong> <strong>Tyee</strong>’s comment section:Making Green <strong>the</strong> Normposted by “mikeoregon” on September 21, 2011One obstacle to green building is our cultural acceptanceof “cost effectiveness” as a primary standardfor evaluating energy investment. It’s a crude andwrongheaded concept, but it’s what we use today. Weneed to shift towards a standard based on determiningwhat it will it take for any building, new or existing,to achieve energy and comfort performance that meetsour collective goals for efficiency, health and greenhousegas emissions reductions.How long before home lighting circuits are all 1.5volts?posted by “Fish-counter” on September 21, 2011LED lights are <strong>the</strong> way to go, and <strong>the</strong>y can be poweredby very low voltages. It would reduce constructioncosts and fire hazard at a stroke.I just heard a presentation on a green wall <strong>from</strong> a highschool student who wants to build one at her school.Too bad she isn’t on City council or in <strong>the</strong> planningdepartment yet.I do wish people like Mopled would go away. <strong>The</strong>yare only convincing to <strong>the</strong>mselves. <strong>The</strong>ir data suckslike an electrolux.Sustainable Architecture and Designposted by “milkandhoney” on September 21, 2011I think it is excellent to see that <strong>the</strong> province is startingto fund green projects like <strong>the</strong> Okanagan Centrefor Excellence. Makes me feel like somebody hasfinally got it right as education is <strong>the</strong> birthplace ofprogress. I have had a chance to work with <strong>the</strong> architects(CEI Architecture) behind <strong>the</strong> Centre for Excellenceon a number of occasions and <strong>the</strong> excitementaround green building on projects like <strong>the</strong>se is reallynoticeable in <strong>the</strong> quality of work. I hope to see bothUBC and Okanagan College meet <strong>the</strong> requirementsof <strong>the</strong> Living Building Challenge and set <strong>the</strong> bar foro<strong>the</strong>r building projects in BC going forward.paradigm shiftposted by “lessdriven” on September 21, 2011If we are actually looking for a paradigm shift in“building green <strong>from</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>ground</strong> <strong>up</strong>”, why is it that<strong>the</strong> focus is always on various technical improvements,as useful as <strong>the</strong>y may be, but which don’tcome close to energy saving benefits of developingsettlement patterns, that allow us freedom <strong>from</strong> <strong>the</strong>automobile.It doesn’t matter if you live in a PassivHaus. If mostof your regular trips to and <strong>from</strong> that house require <strong>the</strong>use of an automobile, you are probably using <strong>up</strong> moreenergy than someone living in a denser area in a lessenergy efficient building, where work, shopping ando<strong>the</strong>r activities are a short walk or bikeride away. See(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjp5hH4raxA).If <strong>the</strong> City of Vancouver wanted to change one bylawthat would save a lot of energy, it would be to remove<strong>the</strong> requirement that every living unit whe<strong>the</strong>rit be apartment, townhouse or detached house comeequipped with at least one off-street parking space.Fish-counterposted by “snert” on September 21, 2011Quote:It would reduce construction costs and fire hazard at astroke.I don’t think so. <strong>The</strong> <strong>the</strong>ory sounds good but practicallyit’s just not worth it. It creates more complicationsbecause you’re going to essentially have to wirea house twice.As long as an existing/new house is wired to code<strong>the</strong>re is next to no chance of fire.90

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