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ecently about the “benefit” they're doing to the Arctic<br />

JB: oh yeah, yeah, that's right.<br />

OV: as a poet, because you've been interested in landscapes and writing about<br />

landscape, and in talking about green washing, have you ever been approached by<br />

companies asking for that kind of thing, copy to be written?<br />

JB: I've had, I think people expect that I'll sympathies with a certain kind of principle. One<br />

guy that I knew who was a friend of the environment, somebody that I trusted, was<br />

approached with some kind of project which had something to do with looking at,<br />

objectively, interrogating the impact of wind turbines on landscapes aesthetically and I<br />

took a look at this and wrote to him and said you can't look at this separately, in terms of<br />

aesthetics, as if looking at the aesthetics of zyklon B or something, because you can't<br />

separate the aesthetics from the obscene amounts of money paid by landowners, to block<br />

applications on their land, and the people who live with that nearby and its impact on<br />

birds, and the ground which is ruined by the huge plugs of concrete that go into the<br />

ground to support them. And the problem is that we should be investing in something<br />

else, other things. But this guy said, I understand what you're saying but I'm being asked<br />

to look only at aesthetics, and I don't understand that because again you can't isolate, you<br />

can't say once you've published the poem well that's, you can't read in a political way<br />

because you didn't intend that, you also can't say I can only explicitly write about this<br />

aspect about a subject without taking the whole subject into account, you know. So there is<br />

that kind of temptation I suppose, because you will get grants from that, because it's a<br />

process really and the people who'll put the money what at the other end are politicians,<br />

really. I remember someone saying to me so, 'what's your next grant proposal going to be?<br />

Is it going to be Big Society or First World War?'. I just' went, 'excuse me?' If you want to<br />

get a grant, propose that you're writing something about the fist world war because that's<br />

coming up, or with tory politicians the big society idea. You can write poetry and stories<br />

and stuff like that about how wonderful old fashioned hierarchical society is and you get<br />

money. And it's true enough. The commercial one is more round about. If you're a big oil<br />

company, you're going to rather have Bono say something good about you than some poet.<br />

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