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a kind of polemic recently, for me the tramp was the sort of proto-proletarian from the<br />

Marxist sort of view, he's been, he's been disenfranchised, he's been dispossessed, he was a<br />

worker – a share cropper as it would be in the united states -, and that was taken way from<br />

him. Therefore they became wanderers, indigents. And that takes everything away from<br />

you but also gives you a real power. If you take anything away from somebody, like they<br />

did to black people in the United States, then some of those people will say your system<br />

doesn't work but mine religion, of nature, my charismatic appeal to other people – for<br />

these people were very charismatic, people would walk miles to hear them sing, they had<br />

to have their mojo, you know -, and it's like in a way artists are more like responders to<br />

this particularly individualistic way of looking at the world, you know like the closing<br />

pitcher who gets up at the end of the baseball game and he's got one lease, and all he's got<br />

to do is take six of the best pitchers and shut them down. And a lot of people can't do that.<br />

They can pitch for innings, and there's a little bit of leeway, but a great closing pitcher<br />

stands up and says ok, nobody's going to hit a ball at all for me. And he's got that “it”, that<br />

mojo as it were, and when you see someone stand up and do that it's wonderful. When<br />

you see that same person throw a bad ball right at the beginning, it's, you want to weep,<br />

because all that guy's got is what they call his 'stuff', the stuff he has and he's called upon<br />

to do it. And the greats somehow always manage to do it<br />

OV: that once chance<br />

JB: yeah, and that's what a blues man will do. He'll got into a town where maybe some of<br />

the guys there want to shoot him. All the white people want to lynch him or force him into<br />

a chain gang or something. And it, that movie where – might have been called Honey<br />

Dripper -. about a blues man travelling around. It showed the current practice where if<br />

you were a vagrant, if you were a person moving through an area, without a sufficient<br />

amount of money in your pocket to do certain things, you could be arrested and kept in<br />

prison for two weeks, or something. But every blues man would be having times where<br />

they were going through the world without much in their pockets, the next gig or<br />

whatever it might be. So the law used to go around and pick these guys up, ad the they<br />

would say to them ok, if you do seven days working for cotton picking say, we'll let you<br />

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