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population to sustainable levels.

. So, we have to listen

to the rural people, we have to talk with

them, we have to understand if you're a

farmer trying to make a living, it really

matters if your chickens are getting eaten

by a weasel, or if your lambs are getting

eaten by a coyote, it’s a very serious

matter.

I think even a billion,

over the long haul, is a great many

people, unless we want to live much,

much more simply. But, from what I'm

seeing now, in my mid-fifties, when I talk

with younger folk, I get the sense they're

create compensation programmes. I

think those of us who want native species

back on the ground need to be willing to

pay a little extra for food. We need to be

willing to pay the farmers indirectly or

directly if they lose livestock to predators.

But, another obstacle to rewilding,

perhaps the biggest in the world, really, is

just the

. I

know that human population is a very

controversial, sensitive subject, but to my

mind,

. I

think, this may not have been the case in

the past, but I think right now, at least in

the affluent countries,

. That is, I

don't think many people want to give up

their modern conveniences but, I think

many people are willing to have a small

family. And, of course, people with small

families tend to have more disposable

income. So, what I'm hoping is that we

can convince the next coming

generations,

. I think we have to humanely

and compassionately educate each other,

and create financial incentives to

encourage a stabilisation of population

in every country, practically, and then

gradual peaceful voluntary declines in

We all love children.

And, people are good. But, we are too

many, right now. You get different

numbers from different demographers

and ecologists, but I think a billion

would be plenty of people to maintain a

vast, comfortable civilisation for

everybody.

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