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8 saerTo gazeTi #27 (211), 13-19.VI, 2012 w.<br />
fragmentebi ekaterine xvedeliZis interviudan<br />
(gadacema `Cven~, wamyvani Tamar Ciqovani)<br />
ekaterine xveeliZe:<br />
pirvelad vmonawileobdi aqcia-<br />
Si, radgan 91 wlidan saqarTveloSi<br />
ar vcxovrobdi. xolo 9<br />
aprilis aqciebis dros region-<br />
Si viyavi, skolaSi vswavlobdi<br />
da Sesabamisad, aqciebze aravin<br />
gamomiSvebda. 27 maisi gansakuTrebiT<br />
damamaxsovrda, radgan<br />
iyo Zalian Tbili, emociuri<br />
dRe, igrZnoboda Zalian didi<br />
muxti. Tavidan cotaTi vnerviulobdi.<br />
biZina darwmunebuli<br />
iyo, rom xalxi movidoda, magram,<br />
roca diliT saxlidan<br />
gadmovxedeT Tvisuflebis moedans<br />
da ver vnaxeT bevri xalxi,<br />
cota avnerviuldiT. magram<br />
Semdeg yovelgvar molodins gadaaWarba,<br />
Zalian emociuri dRe<br />
iyo.<br />
rac Seexeba ojaxis wevrebis<br />
CarTulobas politikaSi,<br />
Cven rom Jaklin kenedisnair<br />
qveyanaSi vcxovrobdeT, garwmunebT,<br />
aranairi survili ar gamoCndeboda<br />
politikaSi CarTvis.<br />
amis survili arc biZinas<br />
gaaCnda da miT ufro, me! magram<br />
es ar modis Cveni survilidan,<br />
es modis valdebulebis grZnobidan.<br />
ra Tqma unda, biZinas<br />
politikaSi Semosvla iyo sakmaod<br />
mniSvnelovani nabiji Cveni<br />
ojaxisTvis. Zalian bevri vifiqreT,<br />
kamaTic gvqonda, radgan<br />
arsebobda safrTxe, rasac<br />
vgrZnobdiT, biZina ki gansakuTrebiT,<br />
radgan kargad icnobs am<br />
xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebs<br />
da icis, raze arian wamsvlelebi.<br />
amitom Zalian bevri emocia<br />
daixarja manamde, vidre am nabijs<br />
gadavdgamdiT. axlac 27<br />
maisma es situacia ufro naTlad<br />
gamoaCina. Tu manamde ar<br />
arsebobda imis safrTxe, rom<br />
SeiZleba raRac momxdariyo, 27<br />
maisis muxtma yvelas daanaxa,<br />
ra ganwyoba aris xalxSi, rogori<br />
survili aqvs saqarTvelos<br />
mosaxleobas da Sesabamisad,<br />
safrTxec gaizarda. Tundac<br />
batoni komaxiZe rasac ambobda,<br />
Tu Cven es gacnobierebuli<br />
gvqonda manamde, 27 maisis<br />
mere es safrTxe realuari gaxda.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, 10 ivniss<br />
me quTaisSi ar viqnebi,<br />
radgan Tu RmerTma ar qnas da<br />
biZinam ver ganagrZo Tavisi politikuri<br />
moRvaweoba, maSin me<br />
vitvirTeb da me gavagrZeleb.<br />
amitom Cveni erTad yofna aRar<br />
aris sasurveli. mgoni, yvela<br />
kargad xedavs, rom es safrTxe<br />
Zalian seriozulia, radgan 27<br />
maisma am mTavrobas kargad daa-<br />
naxa xalxis ganwyoba. es ar iyo<br />
mxolod xalxis raodenobaze<br />
damokidebuli. mniSvneloba ara<br />
aqvs, vin ramden raodenobas daasaxelebs;<br />
Cven, yvela iq mdgomma,<br />
kargad davinaxeT, Tu ra Zala<br />
varT, ramdeni varT, ra SegviZlia.<br />
Sesabamisad, es mTavrobamac<br />
dainaxa. dainaxa, rom procesi<br />
gardauvalia, rac ar unda<br />
gaakeTon, procesi aRar SeCerdeba<br />
da Sesabamisad, maqsimalurad<br />
moindomeben liderisTvis<br />
xelis SeSlas.<br />
es marTlac seriozuli<br />
safrTxea, magram ar vnanob,<br />
radgan emociebi daixarja manam,<br />
vidre biZina gancxadebas gaake-<br />
Tebda. am safrTxes yvela kargad<br />
vxedavdiT, magram utas politikuri<br />
ambiciebi aqvs, Sesa-<br />
bamisad ar isvenebda, ar Cerdeboda,<br />
da Zalian kargsac Sveboda.<br />
dResac agrZelebs uta politikis<br />
ganxriT muSaobas da<br />
didi survili aqvs, momavalSi<br />
politikaSi naxos Tavis adgili.<br />
magram, miuxedavad yovelive<br />
amisa, emociurad marTlac<br />
Zalian Znelia elodo safr-<br />
Txes, ubralod, ar minda, yoveldRe<br />
amaze fiqri. axla TiTqos<br />
Tavisuflad vsaubrob, magram<br />
es imis Sedegad, rom vcdilob<br />
emocias ar avyve, Tumca<br />
saSiSroeba marTlac Zalian didia.<br />
ra Tqma unda, am nabijis<br />
Semdeg Cemi Tavisufleba SeizRuda.<br />
iqidan gamomdinare,<br />
rom sajarooba Zalian ar miyvars,<br />
ojaxis wevrebisTvis<br />
mniSvnelovnad Seicvala cxovreba.<br />
amas ver vityvi beraze,<br />
mas sajarooba Zalian xiblavs.<br />
marTalia, davkargeT garkveuli<br />
Tavisufleba, magram es yvelaferi<br />
gamomdinareobs valdebulebis<br />
grZnobidan. ar minda Zalian<br />
xmamaRali sityvebi vTqva,<br />
magram biZinam es nabiji gadadga<br />
Segnebulad, gaazrebulad,<br />
radgan gadawvita, rom gaakeTos<br />
is, risi valdebulic aris -<br />
daexmaros Tavis qveyanas, daexmaros<br />
Cveni Svilebis momavals!<br />
Sesabamisad aq aRar aris imaze<br />
fiqris dro, ramdenad SeizRuda<br />
Cveni Tavisufleba, ramdenad<br />
davkargeT komforti da a.S.<br />
metsac getyviT, me imdenad ganebivrebuli<br />
viyavi, radgan biZinas<br />
da Cemi ufrosi vaJebis -<br />
utas da beras saxiT imdenad<br />
Zlieri mamakacebi medgnen gverdiT,<br />
rom SemeZlo, mecxovra,<br />
rogorc mindoda, mekeTebina,<br />
risi survilic mqonda. sakmaod<br />
Tvisufali da daculi cxovreba<br />
mqonda. dRes ki situacia<br />
Seicvala da Sesabamisad,<br />
mTeli ojaxis<br />
cxovreba Seicvala,<br />
ara marto biZinasi<br />
da mec Semecvala<br />
ganwyoba. amitom<br />
mzad var yvelafrisTvis.<br />
zurgSi vudgavar<br />
biZinas, imedia,<br />
rom Cemi mxarda-<br />
Wera, Cemi pirovnebis<br />
politikaSi mosvla<br />
saWiro ar gaxdeba, magram<br />
me yvelafrisTvis<br />
mzad var!<br />
gacnobis pirveli dRidanve<br />
arasodes migrZvnia Cvens Soris<br />
arsebuli asakobrivi zRvari.<br />
radgan biZinas aqvs saocari xasiaTi,<br />
Zalian uyvars iumori,<br />
mudmivad xumrobs, da nebismier<br />
adamainTan xdeba misi asakis. magaliTad<br />
cotne darwmunebulia,<br />
rom arafriT ar gansxvavdeba<br />
mamamisi misi asakisagan. am<br />
mxriv Zalian msubuqi pirovnebaa,<br />
arasodes ar aqvs depresiuli<br />
ganwyoba; arasodes mosula<br />
saxlSi im ganwyobiT - axla daviRale<br />
da momasveneT. yovelTvis<br />
xumrobs, laRia, bednieria<br />
da ra problemebic ar unda<br />
hqondes,is rCeba saxls gareT.<br />
ase rom ojaxSi misi problemebi<br />
arasodes gvigrZvnia. piriqiT,<br />
zogjer ise celqobs da<br />
xumrobs, rom Cemi Tavi gacilebiT<br />
ufrosi mgonia, vaCereb da<br />
amaze biWebi kvdebian siciliT.<br />
me vfiqrob, rom Zalian kargi<br />
iqneba, Tu meti qalbatoni<br />
aRmoCndeba politikaSi. mgoni,<br />
eqvTime TayaiSvili werda, rom<br />
qali yovelTvis iyo sazogadoebis<br />
gamaerTianebelio. qarTvel<br />
qals gansakuTrebuli datvirTva<br />
aqvs da ojaxSi Zalian did<br />
rols TamaSobs. mamakacebi amayad<br />
amboben, rom ojaxis ufrosebi<br />
arian, sinamdvileSi ki qalia<br />
ojaxis RerZi. man kargad<br />
icis, rogor marTos mamakaci,<br />
Svilebi; rogor agrZnobinos<br />
Tavi, rom isini arian liderebi.<br />
Sesabamisad, aseTi strategiis<br />
mqone qalbatonebi politikisTvis<br />
Zalian gamosadegebi<br />
arian da ratomac ara! Cemis azriT,<br />
qalTa nakleboba politikaSi<br />
gamowveuli iyo ufro Sida<br />
problemebiT, imiT, rom bevri<br />
adamiania gasuli qveynidan,<br />
vinc ki SeZlo, Seecada sazRvargareT<br />
moeZebna samuSao adgi-<br />
li. da rodesac ekonomiurd<br />
giWirs, dakavebuli xar imis<br />
fiqriT, xval ra aWamo Svilebs,<br />
rogro umkurnalo, am<br />
dros Znelia dakavde politikiT.<br />
ase, rom, ZiriTadad, ekonomiurad<br />
Zlieri qveynebisTvis<br />
aris damaxasiaTebeli politikaSi<br />
bevri qalbatonis moRvaweoba.<br />
me imedi maqvs, rom male<br />
saqarTvelo ise gaZlierdeba,<br />
rom qalbatonebi aqac daiWeren<br />
TavianT adgils politikaSi. me<br />
vfiqrob, rom biZina, radgan Tavad<br />
ar aris agresiuli, SeZlebs<br />
da Secvlis mamakaci politikosebis<br />
agresiul imijs.<br />
rac Seexeba dapirebebs, mar-<br />
Tla miWirs gaxseneba, Tu odesme<br />
rames dampirda, aseTi ram ar<br />
yofila, imitom rom ki ar<br />
gpirdeba, akeTebs. magaliTad,<br />
biZinas xasiaTSi ar zis dabadebis<br />
dRe an raime dResaswauli<br />
mogilocos gansakuTrebulad,<br />
radgan Tvlis, rom yoveli dRe<br />
bednieri unda iyos. SeiZleba<br />
daiviwyos dabadebis dRe, magram<br />
nebismier sxva dRes iseTi saCuqari,<br />
siurprizi gagikeTos, rom<br />
gagaocos. dapirebis micema xom<br />
Zalian didi pasuxismgeblobaa!<br />
isev davubrundebi 27 maisi<br />
Temas, marTlac Zalian bednierebi<br />
viyaviT am dRes, magram es<br />
xom amasTan udidesi pasuxismgeblobaa!<br />
biZina mTeli saRamo<br />
am azriT iyo dakavebuli, ramxela<br />
ndoba maCvena xalxma, ramxela<br />
pasuxismgebloba damekisrao.<br />
amas manamdec acnobierebda,<br />
magram 27 maisis mere, es Zalian<br />
aSkara gaxda. erT magaliTs<br />
mogiyvanT, Cemma megobarma, romelic<br />
monawileobas iRebda<br />
msvlelobaSi, maCvena telefoniT<br />
gadaRebuli videofragmenti,<br />
erT asakovan qalbatons<br />
aqciis dros fexsacmelze qusli<br />
moZvra, Svili Txovda, wa-<br />
videTo, qalma ki fexze gaixada<br />
da ise ganagrZo gza. amas rom<br />
adamiani gaakeTebs, rogor SeiZleba<br />
pasuxismgeblobis grZnoba<br />
aTjer da asjer ar gaizardos,<br />
Tundac marto am qalbatonis<br />
winaSe?! da iq<br />
ramdeni adamiani iyo<br />
mosuli?! asakovnebic<br />
da axalgazrdebic,<br />
rac Zalian kargia.<br />
es xom maTi momavalia.<br />
Tundac is, rom<br />
bera ase exmareba mamas<br />
da gverdiT udgas, me Zalian<br />
momwons. axalgazrdebma<br />
unda Seqmnan es qveyana,<br />
moiTxovon, ganacxadon<br />
pretenzia im qveyanaze, rogor<br />
qveyanaSic surT cxovreba.<br />
Sesabamisad, mSoblebis gverdiT<br />
aucileblad unda idgnen<br />
axalgazrdebi.<br />
biZinas pirvelive gancxadebaSi<br />
iyo naTqvami, rom mas<br />
surs, sazogadoeba gaZlierdes<br />
da darwmunebuli var, amas bi-<br />
Zina aucileblad ganaxorcielebs.<br />
biZinas ar aqvs is ambicia,<br />
rac axasiaTebs sxva politikosebs,<br />
romelTac erTxel airCeven<br />
da hgoniaT, rom amiT mudmivad<br />
unda iyvnen xelisufleba-<br />
Si. amitomac acxadebs igi, rom<br />
ori-sami wlis Semdeg msurs<br />
wasvla, magram minda Cavdge sazogadoebis<br />
samsaxurSi, gavaZliero<br />
sazogadoebrivi seqtori,<br />
raTa yvelam gaigos, rom<br />
Cven unda vmarToT mTavroba,<br />
Cven unda movTxovoT pasuxi da<br />
ar mivceT imis gakeTebis ufleba,<br />
rasac akeTeben dRes. radgan<br />
garkveulwilad es Cveni damsaxurebac<br />
aris, rac dRes xdeba.<br />
vfiqrob, rom am ocwlianma istoriam<br />
qarTvelebs es kargad<br />
dagvanaxa da mgonia, rom biZinas<br />
gareSec sazogadoeba aRar moiTmens,<br />
moiTxovs imas, risi uflebac<br />
aqvs.<br />
rac Seexxeba biZinas pirvel<br />
werils, me marto mbeWdavi namdvilad<br />
ar vyofilvar, monawileobas<br />
viRebdi, ra Tqma unda,<br />
ara dids, magram Cemi ideebi da<br />
mosazrebebi gamaCnda da vcdi-<br />
lobdi, es ideebic moxvedriliyo<br />
am werilSi. biZinas aqvs<br />
araCveulebrivi Tviseba. rodesac<br />
jer kidev moskovSi vcxovrobdiT<br />
da is biznesiT iyo dakavebuli,<br />
me ar vereodi mis<br />
biznesSi arasodes,magram saqmis<br />
kursSi yovelTvis viyavi. saRamoobiT<br />
yovelTvis miyveboda,<br />
sad ra da rogor xdeboda. iyo<br />
raRac momentebi, roca saWiro<br />
iyo Cemi Careva da me im saqmes<br />
vakeTebdi. cotas davitrabaxeb