nebismieri adamianis cxovreba erTi didi wignia
nebismieri adamianis cxovreba erTi didi wignia
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12 interviu<br />
mkiTxveli<br />
_ batono baCa, ukve mravali welia,<br />
gansakuTrebiT ki bolo xans,<br />
Tqveni saqmianobidan gamomdinare,<br />
uSualo Sexeba gaqvT literaturasTan.<br />
gviambeT Tqvens urTierTobaze<br />
qarTvel klasikosebTan.<br />
_ kompania `benefisis” saqmianobis<br />
ZiriTadi mimarTuleba, gansakuTrebiT<br />
bolo wlebSi, beWduri gamocemebis<br />
grafikul gaformebas ukavSirdeba.<br />
bevri saintereso wigni Seiqmna da<br />
gamoica. cota xnis win ganxorcielebuli<br />
proeqtebidan davasaxelebdi petre<br />
ocxelis Semoqmedebis amsaxvel<br />
srul da saintereso gamocemas (es<br />
proeqti kulturis saministros dafinansebiT<br />
ganxorcielda), aseve, or mni-<br />
Svnelovan wigns daviT garejze (orive<br />
gamocema giorgi CubinaSvilis centrma<br />
moamzada). amas garda, grafikulad<br />
gavaformeT wigni, romelic soliko<br />
virsalaZis Semoqmedebas mieZRvna. saintereso<br />
iyo saqarTvelos sapatriarqos<br />
proeqti _ saqarTvelos patriarqis<br />
ilia II-s cxovrebis fotomasaliT<br />
ilustrireba (`mziani Rame~).<br />
gamoveciT eTnografiul-arqiteqturuli<br />
wigni raWaze, lana RoRoberiZis<br />
avtobiografia, vimuSaveT istoriuli<br />
mimarTulebis araerT gamocemaze...<br />
dResdReobiT kafe `qimerion-<br />
Tan” dakavSirebuli wignis dizainze<br />
vmuSaobT, romelic rusTavelis TeatrisTvis<br />
mzaddeba. masSi Zalian saintereso<br />
masalebia warmodgenili.<br />
proeqti erTgvarad literaturas<br />
ukavSirdeba, radgan, mogexsenebaT,<br />
gasuli saukunis pirvel naxevarSi,<br />
kafe `qimerioni” iyo is adgili, sadac<br />
Tavs iyrida maSindeli rCeuli sazogadoeba<br />
_ mwerlebi, poetebi... Tu ar<br />
vcdebi, `qimerionze” wigni pirvelad<br />
gamoicema... samwuxarod, mxatvruli<br />
literaturis nimuSebis dizainze <strong>didi</strong><br />
xania ar gvimuSavia, maT Soris arc<br />
qarTveli klasikosebis nawarmoebebi<br />
gadagvitania grafikul `enaze”. imitom<br />
ki ara, rom amis survili ar gvqonda,<br />
ubralod aseTi SekveTebi ar migvi-<br />
Ria.<br />
rac Seexeba Cems damokidebulebas<br />
klasikur qarTul mwerlobasTan, sabednierod,<br />
ojaxSi, sadac vizrdebodi,<br />
wignTan adekvaturi damokide-<br />
petre petre petre petre petre ocxelis ocxelis ocxelis ocxelis ocxelis albomis albomis albomis albomis albomis garekani garekani garekani garekani garekani<br />
baCa malazonia:<br />
buleba hqondaT. daaxloebiT ToTxmeti-TxuTmeti<br />
wlidan sakiTxavi literaturis<br />
arCeva sakuTari gemovnebiT<br />
daviwye. miyvarda vaJa fSavela, mixeil<br />
javaxiSvili... momwonda nodar dumbaZe,<br />
guram doCanaSvili. sxvaTa Soris,<br />
rom ara ojaxi da iqidan wamosuli<br />
wignTan dakavSirebuli impulsebi,<br />
vfiqrob, rom skolisa da sabWouri<br />
swavlebis maSindeli meTodikis `wyalobiT~<br />
_ iZulebiTi dazepirebis wesebi<br />
Tu nawarmoebebis mTavari gmirebis<br />
socialistur CarCoebSi moqceuli<br />
daxasiaTebebi _ kiTxvas ver Sevi-<br />
Zulebdi, magram literaturisgan<br />
Sors dadgomis survili namdvilad<br />
gamiCndeboda.. amdeni weli gavida da<br />
sul minda rusTaveli ara raRacis-<br />
Tvis, aramed CemTvis da wynarad wavikiTxo.<br />
_ qarTul Tanamedrove literaturas<br />
Tu kiTxulobT?<br />
_ ver getyviT, rom dRevandel<br />
qarTul mwerlobas kargad vicnob. wamikiTxavs<br />
aka morCilaZe, kote jandieri,<br />
laSa buRaZe... zogi<strong>erTi</strong> sxva<br />
mweralic, magram Rrmadmcodneobaze<br />
pretenzias ver ganvacxadeb. ufro<br />
dasavluri an iaponuri, Turquli literatura<br />
mainteresebs _ is, rac bolo<br />
xans Cndeba msoflioSi an rac<br />
CemTvis dagvianebiT aRmovaCine.<br />
_ sanam ucxoel avtorebze visaubrebdeT,<br />
erT-<strong>erTi</strong> qarTuli gamomcemlobis<br />
xelmZRvanelis sityvebi<br />
minda gavixseno. man Tqva, rom saqarTveloSi<br />
cota mkiTxvelia da arc<br />
mweralia bevri. wignis mimarT momxmareblis<br />
interesis naklebobis mizezad<br />
ramdenime faqtori daasaxela.<br />
Tqven rogor fiqrobT, riT aris ganpirobebuli<br />
es problema?<br />
_ getyviT, ucxourze naklebad<br />
ratom mainteresebs Tanamedrove qar-<br />
Tuli proza: CemTvis Tanamedrove qarTuli<br />
literatura ar aris adekvaturi<br />
imisa, rac SeiZleboda dRes saqarTveloSi<br />
daweriliyo. Tuki im problemebze,<br />
rac dRes msoflioSi arsebobs,<br />
SemiZlia gavigo mwerlebisgan,<br />
romlebic dasavleTsa Tu aRmosavleTSi<br />
moRvaweoben da weren ufro sainteresod,<br />
ufro adekvaturad, ufro<br />
xarisxianad _ maSin maT teqstebs wavikiTxav.<br />
avtoris warmomavlobas ar<br />
aqvs mniSvneloba. gadaxedeT bolo<br />
wlebSi saqarTveloSi momxdar ambebs,<br />
ramdeni saintereso ram moxda _ iyo<br />
bevri tkivili, emocia, dramatizmi...<br />
magram yovelive aman literaturaSi<br />
ise `Caiara~, TiTqos gansakuTrebuli<br />
araferi momxdariyos. arsad asaxula<br />
is tkivili da gancda im saxiT, rom<br />
Cafiqrebuliyavi. vimeoreb, rom specialistad<br />
ver gamovdgebi, radgan<br />
amisTvis Tanamedrove qarTul mwerlobaze<br />
sruli warmodgena unda<br />
mqondes, magram ramdenime mcdelobam<br />
CemTvis uSedegod Caiara _ wavikiTxe<br />
da ar damainteresa. SesaZloa vinmem<br />
Tqvas, rom es wlebi imdenad damTrgunveli<br />
iyo misTvis, rom weris survili<br />
gauqra. ar vici, iqneb asec aris?!<br />
sxva Taoba unda movides, albaT. rogorc<br />
paviCi wers _ `omwagebuli ma-<br />
literaturuli literaturuli gazeTi<br />
gazeTi<br />
mebis~ STamomavloba unda gaizardos,<br />
Soridan rom Sexedos dRevandel sinamdviles.<br />
asakovan qarTvel mwerlebze,<br />
romlebic dResac moRvaweoben,<br />
arafers vambob, maT mimarT pretenzia<br />
ar maqvs. am adamianebma Tavisi saintereso<br />
wlebi gamoiares da Tavisi saTqmeli<br />
Tqves. axla Cemi asakis, an aTi wliT<br />
umcros Taobaze vsaubrob. ar vici, Sesa-<br />
Zloa wignis gavrcelebisa Tu popularizaciis<br />
sistema ar aris rigianad awyobili,<br />
an garkveuli finansuri problemebi<br />
arsebobs da amis gamo, maTi wignebi<br />
Cvenamde ver aRwevs, magram razec mimiwvda<br />
xeli, iman Cemze STabeWdileba ver<br />
moaxdina. miuxedavad amisa, iyo axali<br />
formis, axali salaparako enis povnis<br />
mcdeloba. rac TavisTavad mniSvnelovania,<br />
magram es Ziebebi ufro gamonaklisi<br />
iyo, vidre procesis ganmsazRvreli<br />
an wammarTveli tendencia.<br />
absoluturad ar maqvs warmodgena<br />
Tanamedrove qarTul poeziaze, radgan<br />
is leqsebi, romelsac gazeTebis furclebidan<br />
vkiTxulob, ZiriTadad gaugebaria.<br />
es ar niSnavs imas, rom kargi<br />
poetebi ar arseboben, SesaZloa, maT<br />
Sesaxeb ubralod araferi vici. amitom<br />
poeziaze SegiZliaT arc araferi mkiTxoT.<br />
_ Tanamedrove epoqis problemebi,<br />
pirdapir Tu iribad, ucxoel mwerlebsac<br />
xom Seexo, magram zogma warmatebiT,<br />
zogierTma _ naklebad, SeZlo<br />
xarisxiani literatura Seeqmna...<br />
_ xSirad vambobT, rom qarTvelebi<br />
niWieri eri varT. rac TavisTavad, sasiamovno<br />
mosasmenia, magram konkretul<br />
situaciebSi, roca es niWi unda gamomJRavndes,<br />
gaixedav da aRmoaCen, rom<br />
TiTqmis arcerT sferoSi xarisxiani<br />
araferi iqmneba (gamonaklisi yovel-<br />
Tvis arsebobs). yvelgan <strong>didi</strong> deficitia.<br />
vfiqrob, roca adamiani sakuTar<br />
umoqmedobas politikur movlenebs<br />
abralebs, es misi sisustis niSania. gavarvarebuli<br />
cenzuris pirobebSic ki<br />
SegiZlia wero, gamosce, radgan literaturis<br />
gavrcelebis uamravi xerxi arsebobs,<br />
miTumetes dRes, roca adamianebi internetis<br />
saSualebiT Sedian literaturis<br />
samyaroSi da beWdur gamocemebs aRarc<br />
ki ekarebian. amitom, imis Tqma, rom me davwere,<br />
magram ver wagakiTxe, vfiqrob, TiTidan<br />
gamowovili mizezia. mTavaria survili,<br />
codna, adekvaturoba. es unda gindodes,<br />
amisTvis unda arsebobde, cxovrobde,<br />
ar Cerdebode...<br />
12-25 ivnisi 2009<br />
`rac unda ecado, yvelafers ver waikiTxav~<br />
90-iani wlebis dasawyisSi, roca saqarTveloSi sruli qaosi iyo, cnobil mxatvar nodar<br />
malazonias, romelic ukve samoci welia grafikaSi muSaobs, saqarTvelos erovnuli<br />
bankidan daukavSirdnen da erovnuli valutis _ qarTuli laris - dizainis Seqmna SesTavazes.<br />
im droisTvis saqarTveloSi ar moiZebneboda adamiani, romelsac am saqmeSi gamocdileba<br />
eqneboda. batonma nodarma proeqtis ganxorcielebaze fiqri Tavis vaJTan, mxatvar baCa<br />
malazoniasTan erTad daiwyo. Seiqmna komisiac. romelmac sazogadoebis cnobili warmomadgenlebi<br />
_ istorikosebi, xelovnebaTmcodneebi _ gaa<strong>erTi</strong>ana. kompania `benefisis”<br />
ofisSi (kompania batonma nodarma oci wlis win daaarsa) komisiis msjelobisa da kamaTis<br />
Sedegad TandaTan ikveTeboda momavali qarTuli fulis Sinaarsi da formebi. nodar da<br />
baCa malazoniebma laris dizainze daaxloebiT <strong>erTi</strong> wlis manZilze imuSaves da Sinaarsobrivad<br />
metyveli, vizualurad STambeWdavi kupiurebi Seqmnes.<br />
oTxi wlis win umcrosma malazoniam erovnuli bankis mier oraslariani kupiuris dizainze gamocxadebul<br />
saerTaSoriso konkursSi miiRo monawileoba da axali banknotis saxe ukve damoukideblad Seqmna. amavdroulad,<br />
igi qarTuli pasportis axali dizainis avtoricaa.<br />
TiTqmis ori aTeuli welia, batoni baCa, firma `benefisTan” erTad, sxva aranakleb mniSvnelovan proeqtebze<br />
muSaobs. misi saqmianobis ZiriTadi mimarTuleba beWduri gamocemebis grafikuli gaformebaa. samuSaos miuxedavad,<br />
wignisTvis is yovelTvis iclis. mkiTxvelic xom erTgvari profesiaa... wignebze sasaubrod baton baCas `benefisis”<br />
ofisSi vewvieT.<br />
200 200 200 200 200 lar lar lariani lar lariani<br />
iani iani iani banknotis banknotis banknotis banknotis banknotis samuSao samuSao samuSao samuSao samuSao versia versia versia versia versia<br />
_ eleqtronuli internet-gamocemebi<br />
axseneT. Tqvenc iyenebT am<br />
saSualebebs?<br />
_ ara, me nabeWdi wignis moyvaruli<br />
var. wignis xelSi aReba, misi gadafurcla,<br />
Semdeg saniSnis Cadeba da ase<br />
Semdeg _ rogor giTxraT, erTgvari<br />
individualuri procesia. wignTan<br />
urTierTobas, kiTxvas Tavisi tradicia<br />
aqvs.<br />
_ iyo dro, roca Cveni Taobis adamianebi<br />
ucxoel mwerlebs rusulenovani<br />
Targmanebis saSualebiT ecnobodnen.<br />
maSin miiCnevdnen, rom<br />
qarTuli Targmani rusuls xarisxiT<br />
Camouvardeboda. Tqveni azriT,<br />
axla ra mdgomareobaa? dasavleli<br />
avtorebis wignebs romel enaze kiTxulobT?<br />
_ SesaZloa, amas problema vuwodoT,<br />
Tumca misi gadaWris gzebic arsebobs.<br />
dRes, roca wignis maRaziaSi<br />
Sevdivar, vxedav, rom qarTul enaze<br />
Targmnili wignebis raodenobam aSkarad<br />
imata. Targmanebis xarisxze verafers<br />
getyviT, radgan, samwuxarod,<br />
rusul enaze kiTxvas var Cveuli. Tumca<br />
vaRiareb, originalSi kiTxva umjobesia.<br />
xuTi wlis win qarTul enaze<br />
Targmnili Tanamedrove literatura<br />
iSviaToba iyo, maRaziis daxlze<br />
or-sam wigns Tu waawydebodi. axla ra-<br />
Rac-raRacebi gamoCnda da es Zalian<br />
kargia. Tanac, gamocemebis poligrafia<br />
metad daixvewa, wignebi vizualu-<br />
erovnuli erovnuli erovnuli erovnuli erovnuli pasportis pasportis pasportis pasportis pasportis gverdi gverdi gverdi<br />
gverdi gverdi
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