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12-25 ivnisi 2009<br />

rad ufro mimzidveli gaxda _ saqme<br />

am mxrivac gaimarTa.<br />

_ ZiriTadad rusul enaze Targmnil<br />

literaturas kiTxulobT, Tqveni<br />

azriT, ra aris aucilebeli imisTvis,<br />

rom Targmani kargi gamovides?<br />

_ es profesional literators,<br />

mTargmnels unda hkiTxoT.<br />

_ Targmanis mimarT garkveuli<br />

moTxovnebi mkiTxvelsac xom aqvs?<br />

is ama Tu im niSniT arCevs kargi<br />

Targmania Tu _ cudi...<br />

_ asea. <strong>erTi</strong> nawarmoebis ramdenime<br />

Targmani minaxavs da isini mkveTrad<br />

gansxvavdebodnen erTmaneTisgan.<br />

mTargmneli mwerlis Tanaavtoria. es<br />

ndobis sakiTxia. Tu kiTxulob da teqstma<br />

`wagiRo~, Sen endobi avtors da<br />

ijereb, rom esa da es wigni folkneris<br />

an cvaigis dawerilia, Sedixar mwerlis<br />

samyaroSi, romelic Senamde ase<br />

kargad moitana mTargmnelma da romliTac<br />

arasodes interesdebi, mis gvars<br />

ar uyureb. ar ici, ramdenad sindisierad<br />

aris Targmnili is nawarmoebi,<br />

romelic mogwons, magram roca<br />

karg Targmans kiTxulob, ggonia, rom<br />

Sens win originaluri teqsti devs.<br />

mxatvruli literaturis Targmnas<br />

Tavisi wesebi aqvs. Tu bevri wigni<br />

ar iTargmna, ar gamoica, Sedarebis<br />

saSualeba arasodes gveqneba da ver<br />

ganvsazRvravT, rogoria maTi xarisxi.<br />

am etapze, mniSvnelovania, rom<br />

Tanamedrove ucxouri literatura,<br />

rogoric unda iyos misi xarisxi, qar-<br />

Tul enaze arsebobdes da adamianebma,<br />

romlebmac arc rusuli ena ician<br />

da imis saSualebac ar aqvT, rom nawarmoebs<br />

originalis enaze gaecnon, esa<br />

Tu is wigni qarTulad waikiTxon.<br />

_ bevrs imdenad moswons wignis<br />

kiTxvis procesi, rom mis mxatvrul<br />

Rirebulebebs naklebad aqcevs<br />

yuradRebas. ise, wignTan urTierToba<br />

Zalian piradulia, gemovnebis ambavia...<br />

_ es survilis doneze agebuli<br />

Zalian individualuri urTierTobaa.<br />

SeiZleba adamiani erTxel an orjer<br />

aiZulo wigni waikiTxos, magram<br />

kiTxvas iZulebiT ver Seayvareb. Ti-<br />

Toeuli adamiani am arCevans individualurad<br />

akeTebs. bavSvs SeiZleba<br />

xmamaRla ukiTxo, magram garkveul<br />

asakSi, roca is damoukidebeli xdeba,<br />

TviTon sazRvravs, ramdenad mniSvnelovania<br />

misTvis wignTan urTier-<br />

Toba, gadawyvetilebas iRebs, rogori<br />

literatura airCios, romel enaze<br />

ikiTxos wignebi. yoveli mkiTxveli<br />

komforts TviTonve iqmnis. zogi<br />

ucxo enebs swavlobs, sasurveli avtorebis<br />

wignebi dedanSi rom waikiTxos.<br />

magram, Tu adamians kiTxva ar<br />

surs, mas wignisken ver gaaxedeb.<br />

vambobT, rom bavSvebi ar kiTxuloben.<br />

aris Tu ara es problema? am<br />

Temaze bevri mifiqria-meTqi, ver<br />

getyviT, magram Cemi mosazreba maqvs.<br />

es ar aris SemaSfoTebeli da damangreveli<br />

ram. vfiqrob, rom is, vinc<br />

wignebs ar kiTxulobs, garkveuli saxis<br />

informacias samyaros, garemos<br />

Sesaxeb an imaze, rac mis garSemo xdeba,<br />

alternatiuli gzebiT iRebs.<br />

gavimeoreb, rom TiToeul adamians<br />

aqvs ufleba, Tavad gansazRvros,<br />

Seabijos Tu ara literaturis<br />

sivrceSi, moxvdes Tu ara kargad<br />

moTxrobili saintereso ambebis samyaroSi.<br />

es misi piradi saqmea, sakuTriv<br />

bavSvis gadasawyvetia. zogi<strong>erTi</strong> miiCnevs,<br />

rom rac realur <strong>cxovreba</strong>Si<br />

xdeba, rasac kinosamyaro da Teatri<br />

sTavazobs, an Tundac quCis ambebi<br />

ufro sainteresoa, vidre _ wignis<br />

kiTxva. bavSvis erTmniSvnelovnad<br />

dasja imis gamo, rom is ar kiTxulobs,<br />

marTebulad ar mimaCnia. ar unda vifiqroT,<br />

rom isini dakarguli adamianebi<br />

arian. iseTi maxinji formebis<br />

Sesaxebac msmenia, roca mSobeli<br />

Svils sayvedurobs _ vinmem wignebis<br />

Sesaxeb rom gkiTxos, Sen ki ver upasuxo,<br />

Sevrcxvebio. ar arsebobs garantia,<br />

rom bavSvi, romelic kiTxulobs,<br />

sxvaze ukeTesi iqneba. esec, garkve-<br />

ulwilad, sakiTxisadmi sabWouri midgomaa.<br />

literaturis Seyvarebis maSindelma<br />

iZulebiTma meTodebma is moitana,<br />

rom aTidan cxra bavSvs skolis damTavrebis<br />

Semdeg wigni xelSi arc auRia...<br />

_ ufrosebis SeSfoTebis mizezi,<br />

albaT, is aris, rom dRes axalgazrda<br />

Taoba ZiriTadad informaciis miRebiT<br />

kmayofildeba. samwuxarod, informacia<br />

sxvaa da ganaTleba _ sxva.<br />

_ geTanxmebiT, absoluturad sxvadasxva<br />

velia.<br />

_ magram, rogorc Tqven TqviT, es,<br />

albaT, konkretuli adamianebis arCevanzea,<br />

maT survilzea...<br />

_ wignis kiTxvas xom garkveul dros<br />

axmar? ar SeiZleba wigni xuT wuTs<br />

ikiTxo, am process saaTs mainc andomeb.<br />

arian ukiduresad dakavebuli adamianebi,<br />

romlebsac Tavisufali 1 saaTic<br />

ki ar aqvT, magram Tu survilia, SeuZliaT<br />

Ramis or-sam saaTamde ikiTxon. isev<br />

iq mivdivarT, saidanac daviwyeT _ ki-<br />

Txva mxolod piradi surviliT, emociiT,<br />

wignisadmi damokidebulebiT aris<br />

ganpirobebuli.<br />

_ Tqveni Svilebi bevrs kiTxuloben?<br />

_ CvenTan asea: <strong>erTi</strong> kiTxulobs, meore<br />

_ naklebad, mesame _ iSviaTad.<br />

mcdelobac gvqonda gverCia maTTvis,<br />

ra waekiTxaT. erTma gadawyvita, rom<br />

wigni marTlac ainteresebs, meores<br />

ufro grafika da fotografia itacebs,<br />

yvelaze patara ki mTlianad eleqtronul-cifruli<br />

samyaros Svilia. mec<br />

da Cemi meuRlec mkiTxvelebi varT,<br />

Tumca me SeiZleba raRacam gamitacos<br />

(Jurnalebi, periodika) da mxatvrul<br />

literaturas ramdenime dRe arc gavekaro.<br />

Cemi meuRle ki wignebs bevrad met<br />

dros uTmobs _ yoveldRiurad ramdenime<br />

saaTs kiTxulobs. wlebis man-<br />

Zilze es misi cxovrebis ucvleli wesia<br />

da Camoyalibebul ritualad eqca.<br />

<strong>nebismieri</strong> tipis literaturas ecnoba.<br />

amis gamo xSirad vexumrebi kidec.<br />

Tumca, ojaxSi pirvelad wakiTxvis riski<br />

viRacam xom unda gaswios?!<br />

_ wignis kiTxva marTlac cxovrebis<br />

wesad iqceva xolme...<br />

_ kargi literatura, iseve rogorc<br />

cudi, adamianze yovelTvis axdens gavlenas.<br />

roca Zalian advili sakiTxavi<br />

plakati gaeros dakveTiT<br />

<strong>wignia</strong> da kiTxvis dros SegiZlia sxva<br />

ramezec ifiqro, es cotaTi gaSterebs<br />

kidec, magram amavdroulad wigni gWirdeba.<br />

zogjer xvdebi, rom saintereso<br />

arc aris, magram mxolod imitom agr-<br />

Zeleb, - kiTxvas rom es procesi giyvars.<br />

SesaZloa, kargi literatura yoveldRe<br />

arc Cagivardes xelSi. marTalia,<br />

bevri kargi wigni arsebobs, magram<br />

enobriv barierze rom araferi vTqvaT,<br />

yvelafers mainc ver waikiTxav...<br />

miyvars wignis xelSi aReba. adre, savarZelSi<br />

jdoma da ase kiTxva momwonda,<br />

bolo xans `loginis mkiTxveli~ gavxdi.<br />

_ Tu sworad mivxvdi, yvelafers<br />

ar kiTxulobT...<br />

_ ara. vTqvaT, SevdivarT wignis ma-<br />

RaziaSi (ho, esec ritualis nawilia _<br />

wignebis sayidlad meuRlesTan erTad<br />

siaruli), viwyebT Tvalierebas _ es wa-<br />

literaturuli literaturuli gazeTi<br />

gazeTi<br />

interviu<br />

13<br />

kiTxulia, esec, isic...<br />

raime axali Camovida?<br />

sami axali gvari gvxvdeba<br />

TvalSi. vkiTxulobT<br />

anotacias, rom gaverkveT,<br />

moTxrobili ambavi<br />

ramdenad saintereso<br />

SeiZleba iyos CvenTvis.<br />

virCevT wigns, vbrundebiT<br />

Sin da viwyebT ki-<br />

Txvas. sanam amis kiTxvas<br />

davasrulebdeT, maRaziebSi<br />

raime axlis gamoCenas<br />

velodebiT. isev<br />

mivdivarT, veZebT, mogvaqvs...<br />

am procesSi, garantia<br />

imisa, rom Sen mier<br />

arCeuli axali avtoris<br />

teqsti aucileblad<br />

kargi iqneba, ar arsebobs.<br />

am SemTxvevaSi, ase-<br />

Ti Tvisebac maqvs, Semi-<br />

Zlia gadavdo wigni, Cemi<br />

meuRle ki bolomde<br />

kiTxulobs. misTvis es<br />

procesia mniSvnelovani<br />

da amis gamo bolo wlebia<br />

is gaxda Cemi gzamkvlevi.<br />

meubneba xolme, es<br />

aseTi <strong>wignia</strong>, is _ iseTi.<br />

amitom wignebis SerCevis<br />

TvalsazrisiT garkveuli<br />

movaleobebi<br />

mas gadavabare, esec xom ru ru rusTavelis ru rusTavelis<br />

sTavelis sTavelis sTavelis Teatr Teatr Teatris Teatr Teatris<br />

is is is axalgazrduli axalgazrduli axalgazrduli axalgazrduli axalgazrduli dasi, dasi, dasi, dasi, dasi, leonsi leonsi leonsi leonsi leonsi da da da da da lena lena lena lena lena<br />

ndobis ambavia?!<br />

mistikac da deteqtiuri Janris lit-<br />

_ sanam ucnobi avtoris kiTxvas eraturac. am Janris mimarT interesi<br />

daiwyebdeT, saintereso ambis molo- gamiCda. Tu stili SenarCunebulia,<br />

dini, albaT, wignTan urTierTobis teqsti _ gamarTuli da xarisxiani,<br />

kidev <strong>erTi</strong> nawilia.<br />

socialuri realobis amsaxvel nawar-<br />

_ diax, roca Sin axali wigniT vbrmoebebsac vkiTxulob.<br />

undebiT da erTmaneTs vuTmobT _ `da- _ axseneT mwerlebi, romlebic<br />

iwye~. `ara, Sen daiwye. dagelodebi, `Tqveni avtorebi” verasodes gaxde-<br />

manamde raime Jurnals wavikiTxav~... Tan bian. rogori unda iyos avtori, rom<br />

ar ginda daTmoba, molodinSi xar... is `Tqveni” gaxdes?<br />

aseve sainteresoa, roca SenTvis _ roca raRacis dagemovneba gin-<br />

ucnob avtors aRmoaCen. maxsovs, daaxda, pirvelive kovzidan xvdebi rogoloebiT<br />

eqvsi-Svidi wlis win moskoria. wignic asea _ daaxloebiT aTi<br />

vidan orhan famuqi `Camovitane”. ma- gverdis Semdeg vici, es teqsti CemTvis<br />

Sin, mas aq naklebad icnobdnen. daviw- `gemrielia” Tu _ ara. Tumca SeiZleye<br />

kiTxva... Semdeg es wigni Cemi saxlba, <strong>erTi</strong>s mxriv, es iyos mSrali, gamoidan<br />

ise `gavida~, rom axlac ar vici, zomili Txroba, rogorc, magaliTad,<br />

visTan aris. Zalian bevri cnobili sax- isiguro wers, meores mxriv ki, famueli<br />

da gvari `moiara~. mogvianebiT, qis, an sxva mwerlebis msgavsad, abso-<br />

roca famuqi bevrma gaicno, maTgan luturad sxvagvari, mravalferovani<br />

visTanac es wigni moxvda, am mweral- samyaro gadaiSalos. mTavaria, rom<br />

Tan pirveli `Sexvedris” ambebi mesmo- isini amas Zalian xarisxianad, magrad<br />

da. es Zalian msiamovnebda. Tu Sens akeTeben. markesi miyvars. simZimis mi-<br />

garSemo ar aris xalxi, visac SegiZlia uxedavad, folkneric miyvars, radgan<br />

amaze esubro, maSin TiTqos yvelafers is xarisxiT, literaturis codniT,<br />

azric ekargeba...<br />

gemos CatanebiT wers.<br />

_ STabeWdilebis gaziareba, TiT- arian mwerlebi, romlebic, marTaqos<br />

kiTxvis erTgvari gagrZelebaa. lia, did avtorebTan ver mivlen, mag-<br />

_ diax, esec ritualis nawilia. ram Zalian sainteresod da ostatu-<br />

_ ukve aRniSneT, rom Tanamedrad gawvdian saTqmels. Tundac - perove<br />

ucxouri literaturis mkiTxres reverte. is STambeWdav istoriebs<br />

veli ufro xarT. axlaxan cnobili msubuqad yveba, gemos atans da es Sen-<br />

Turqi mwerali orhan famuqi axszec gadmodis.<br />

eneT...<br />

aucilebeli ar aris, da verc SeZ-<br />

_ upirvelesad, siamovnebiT viqneleb, yoveldRiurad Zalian maRali<br />

bodi Tanamedrove qarTuli litera- donis literatura ikiTxo. damijeturis<br />

mkiTxveli. ase rom, ucxouri reT, gonebas zogjer dasveneba sWird-<br />

literaturis arCeva TviTmizani ar eba. iciT, rogor vcnob seriozul<br />

aris. kidev erTxel gavimeoreb _ li- nawarmoebs? roca vkiTxulob da sityteraturas,<br />

mxatvrul teqsts dRes vas ver vtoveb, arada, sxva SemTxvevasazRvari<br />

aRar aqvs da Cemi brali ar Si SemiZlia raRac gamovtovo, raRa-<br />

aris, Tu ruSdis qaSmiri, akroidis cas gadavaxte. roca saqme seriozul<br />

londoni da famuqis stambuli gac- literaturasTan maqvs, TiToeuli siilebiT<br />

saintereso da adekvaturia, tyva sunTqvasaviTaa _ ai, CaisunTqa,<br />

vidre _ Cemi Taobis qarTuli lit- amoisunTqa, Seanela... Tu am ritmidan<br />

eratura. sul mwydeba guli da velo- amovardi, teqstTan kontaqts dakardebi,<br />

rodis Semxvdeba Cems enaze gav.<br />

CemTvis nacnobi dro da adgilebi ase- kargi wignebi ulevia. rac unda ec-<br />

Tive savse, dinamiuri, mistiuri da, ado, yvelafers ver waikiTxav, magram<br />

Tundac, saSiSi.<br />

yovelTvis SegiZlia ipovo Seni lit-<br />

Segnebulad ar vexebi wina Taobis eratura da mis garSemo Seni samyaro<br />

mwerlebs, romlebmac Camoayalibes da Seqmna. literaturas sazRvrebi ar<br />

gavlena iqonies Cems literaturul aqvs, barierebi moSlilia. dRes mkiTx-<br />

gemovnebaze. ukve CamoTvlili avtovels yvelaferze miuwvdeba xeli. Tu<br />

rebis garda bevri popularuli saxe- sasurveli wigni biblioTekaSi ar aqvs<br />

lia, magram yvelasTan ver poulob sa- da verc maRaziaSi moZebna, interneerTos,<br />

magaliTad, koelio verasodes tis daxmarebiT SeZlebs ipovos is, ri-<br />

gaxdeba Cemi mwerali, verc _ murakasi wakiTxvis survilic marTla klavs...<br />

mi.<br />

_ mdidari biblioTeka gaqvT?<br />

bolo xans literaturisadmi damo- _ mdidari ras hqvia, ar vici, makidebuleba<br />

cota Semecvala. garkvegram garkveuli raodenobis wignebi<br />

ul asakSi vambobdi, fantastikuri aris... yovel SemTxvevaSi, erT adami-<br />

Janris wignebi da deteqtivebi ar mians erT literaturul <strong>cxovreba</strong>s<br />

tacebs-meTqi. axla _ piriqiT, kargi gaatarebinebs.<br />

xarisxis fantastikac mainteresebs,<br />

esaubra Tamar Juruli

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