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our <str<strong>on</strong>g>mana</str<strong>on</strong>g>akitanga, how well we can feed each other, but even those relati<strong>on</strong>ships to the whenua, ... you<br />

could go down as a group <strong>and</strong> collect watercress kōrero <strong>and</strong> the next minute the stories come out, ... so<br />

the kōrero comes, ... so we’re not getting out there so much so we’re not talking <strong>and</strong> sharing the stories<br />

so much – Interviewee #18<br />

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Interviewee #19 – that’s the thing, ... is creating stuff, creating inl<strong>and</strong>, give the <str<strong>on</strong>g>moana</str<strong>on</strong>g> a rest, you know,<br />

I’m interested to see how this bloody mussel farm goes ... In Napier, you know I’ve never seen mussels<br />

growing out in the sea <strong>on</strong> bloody strings <strong>and</strong> stuff. You know I’ve seen them growing in sheltered areas<br />

down in Nels<strong>on</strong> <strong>and</strong> stuff <strong>and</strong> you know, where they’re protected, but to grow out in the ocean I think<br />

they should have tried it first.<br />

Interviewer #1 – So is that successful, you think that there’s a potential here for Maketu for a similar<br />

venture?<br />

Interviewee #19 – I think, yeah I think there would be because that green-lipped mussel is taking over<br />

this Maketu mussel, you know, it just breeds so profusely, other than, well it gets taken, but you know,<br />

the old Maketu mussel is getting a bit scarcer because the green-lipped are moving in <strong>and</strong> taking over<br />

because it’s a faster-growing mussel, but yeah, it could be but then again, we mightn’t have the room.<br />

We mightn’t have the room here<br />

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as early as last Christmas when we were at home we were struggling to catch a snapper <strong>and</strong> then we got<br />

a report that they were all floating just outside the bay there. Some<strong>on</strong>e had scooped them all up <strong>and</strong><br />

then dumped them because it was cheaper to dump them than bring them back in. So another soluti<strong>on</strong><br />

for that, for the fish dumping, that was given by <str<strong>on</strong>g>tangata</str<strong>on</strong>g> kaitiaki was the pātaka system. I mean a lot of<br />

these things, these themes they keep recurring throughout all the different iwi groups so a pātaka<br />

system, I think, it has been trialled in a couple of different areas, but that would be something al<strong>on</strong>g the<br />

lines of rather than dumping fish, maybe store them or give them to the local <str<strong>on</strong>g>tangata</str<strong>on</strong>g> whenua <strong>and</strong> they<br />

could use it as part of their customary allowance – Interviewee #10b<br />

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We had specific beds. So we had this bed, you d<strong>on</strong>’t touch it, that’s for tangis. That <strong>on</strong>e there, that’s for<br />

21st, happy occasi<strong>on</strong>s. – Interviewee #10b<br />

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