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..................... we did find that the stocks were, had changed over the years. – Interviewee #2 ..................... I can remember when I was a kid, that would be the ideal world. If we're talking about mahinga kai then I would be going back 50+ years where fish was plentiful, eels were plentiful, kahawai were plentiful and there've been no barriers on quota or limits on what one can catch. ... I suppose those days are gone now – Interviewee #3 ..................... when we were younger there was a lot of kai. – Interviewee #4 ..................... I remember being in a dinghy and me and my dad ... reached out over the side and we were grabbing kinas off this rock and now you've actually got to put scuba gear on and go quite deep to get amounts of kai<strong>moana</strong> to feed people at maraes so that we carry on our hospitality, our traditions, which is to feed the people. – Interviewee #4 ..................... ‘Well you know what the pipis are like up here now and out of our love, I've sent my mokos and my sons to go and get you some pipis and to take them back down to Mahia and transplant that because we've got,’ they had heard about the trouble that we're in. – Interviewee #4 ..................... we've grown up and we have dived and we have fished, we have been on the sea and we have seen no improvement of anything we've seen at the time in the stocks. – Interviewee #4 ..................... ... in terms of a birth right around being able to feed ourselves and our whanau/whānui, and to pass that down to respective generations, it’s just not possible ... it’s on the background of having childhood experiences that weren’t able to be passed on to the next generation. – Interviewee #5 ..................... I cannot get my daughter, who’s 14, a fish off our traditional reef. – Interviewee #5 ..................... ... the local people saying that there wasn't this species or that species. You had to go out a distance around about 1 1/2 km for kina – Interviewee #6 9
..................... ...one of the local recreational kaumatuas out at Kairakau and many others that have always said that there's no legal sized paua around – Interviewee #6 ..................... Maybe like inshore depletion, like there's no easy access– Interviewee #7 ..................... So they always had dry pātiki at their (pokai?) but over the years, as the numbers reduced for whatever reason, they blamed the commercial fishermen for that. They weren't able to provide that at their (pokai?) ... Dried pātiki, dried (manu?) and shark liver, which was once upon a time quite plentiful. ... because they used to (strangle?) pipi onto (toutou?) and they used to be on the table as well and there is a big decline in that species – Interviewee #8 ..................... Interviewer #1 - So you’re referring to a time of abundance. Is that the case now? Interviewee #13 – It’s about in the 60s. No. Interviewee #12– No, absolutely not. Interviewee #14– Maybe in the lakes and outside of Rotorua, but not here. ... You can still get kōura out of it. ... It’s not to say that’s it’s not there but in abundance, no. ..................... ... Interviewee #13 - kaumatua talked about a time when the river, it was that plentiful, the watercress, that it even grew out into the lake, partly around by the lake and my mother talked about a time when the wharekai was placed right beside the river and when they were young and cooking for the marae, they could basically just walk outside the backdoor and pick watercress ... that was quite common for them. Interviewee #14– [X] got old photographs of, actually of (hangis?) going around ... You can actually still see the watercress in the river so it was that plentiful. As you see today the river runs down the (?) the mouth from there, right up past the marae. That’s how plentiful it was. It was just right through the river and all they talk about was just enough room down the middle of the river that people could squeeze through on a little boat or something. Other than that it was that full of watercress that carloads of people whether they were local or from town here would come out at different times to get watercress Interviewee 13 – ... everybody would have their little bunches of watercress to take home and I can remember that quite vividly, actually. Everybody left with their kai. The other kai that they talked about which was quite plentiful was kākahi. ...she’s 78 now. She talks about an age of being between eight 10
Page 1 and 2: Mana moana
Page 3: Mauriora ki te whaiao, ki te ao mā
Page 6 and 7: This report was compiled by Rachel
Page 8 and 9: Iwi locations viii
Page 10: Helpers; Enablers .................
Page 13 and 14: You take pressure off wild stocks;
Page 15 and 16: Commercial Pressure What can be don
Page 17 and 18: Poaching & Other Pressures Who are
Page 19: Past Abundance & Present State What
Page 23 and 24: people get a good taste of it now b
Page 25 and 26: estuary it was just abundance of fi
Page 27 and 28: (kakau?), so we went up the Kaituna
Page 29 and 30: he’s not a scientist but that was
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Page 33 and 34: Past & Current Impact of Land Uses
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Page 37 and 38: Interviewee #27 - [Land use] has da
Page 39 and 40: Aspirations for Abundance What is i
Page 41 and 42: ..................... the taiāpure
Page 44 and 45: Kaitiaki Action What are the kaitia
Page 46 and 47: Problem Recognition What have iwi i
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Page 50 and 51: improvements, such as the Ohau Chan
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Page 54 and 55: Interviewer #1 - It’s a bit of a
Page 56 and 57: damaging the ecology with those wat
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Page 60 and 61: the coastal people, when you start
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Page 66 and 67: much as they can but in the non-Mā
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Quotes: within the fisheries mechan
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we need to be doing what we're doin
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Interviewee #18- Yeah, yep, totally
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we’ve had meetings, hopefully the
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Just leave it alone.’ - Interview
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Cut quotas Quotes: The long-term go
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particular boat that goes out, that
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I think we all have to understand t
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Interviewee #14- So in other words,
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when the snapper come into spawn of
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those objectives. So I think you’
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water management a
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We’ve investigated ourselves and
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would be in a much healthier positi
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Initiating Change What are the acti
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Interviewee #4- The urgent need, li
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that we had rights under the Treaty
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Interviewer #1 - But they don’t n
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we shared what we had in common and
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Relationship Building: (networks) H
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managing those rel
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part, which is the major part. The
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could be as simple as if the River
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Leadership What qualities make a go
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family thing has been to adapt to t
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..................... ‘Sooner or
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Interviewee #19 - It is frustrating
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kaimoana. Things h
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locals and they’re not the Asians
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timeline that we did in the trainin
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Legal Mechanisms & Government Inter
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Barriers for Iwi/Hapū What are the
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..................... Because when
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If you put the same application for
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Interviewer #1 - Why are people afr
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Interviewee #7 - I mean, there are
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We were totally unprepared for the
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Interviewee #10 - And Te Puni Kōki
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Interviewee #10 - You should sue th
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have precedence over tangat
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..................... And I can und
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so we’re not talking and sharing
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Interviewee #19 - No, it was a volu
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Interviewee #20 - Yes, the answer i
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hapū does, the hapū the whanui wi
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not there. … we said, ‘Well we
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on for a long time at Maketu, peopl
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Helpers; Enablers Who/what has help
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Interviewee #3- We get on well with
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Interviewee #8- They have, yes, the
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MFish were great, MFish were great
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Interviewee #16- That’s what we w
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Interviewer #1 - He’s with Easter
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that many committees in Maketu for
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Legal Mechanisms Attempted to Use b
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Basically, we wanted to man
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group and so proceeded to hīkoi in
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that board was made up over there a
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actually. So we owe a lot to that o
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they wanted to sink the boat into o
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has to be some type of difference m
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Interviewee #4- Well, now we've got
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Interviewee#18 - I see that without
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into progress for our people and th
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Government holds the purse strings,
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It doesn't matter if you’re local
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... Interviewer #1 - You’d mentio
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We're still waiting for a response
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Interviewee#6 - Yeah and there was
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Interviewee #8- No, they didn't and
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Interviewer #1 - So you agreed to-
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it was actually a part of our overa
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and battered because they had just
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‘If they’re there next week, th
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Māori so that still lingers in the
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usually about them coming out, ‘O
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Interviewee #20 - It would appear s
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committee that was selected, I’m
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that is very important to us and we
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that it’s been a really dire situ
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Interviewee #29b - they told us, lo
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got so frustrating because the farm
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Spirituality Summary of Key Points:
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gap in your, you know, and you end
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we’ve been told the kaitiaki is a
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and some don’t or they don’t wa
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Interviewee #15b - That’s where o
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unless we’re able to develop our
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