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Mana moana, mana tangata Testimonies on depletion and ...

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some other technical skills that our older people d<strong>on</strong>'t have are just not as fast as we are, we could help<br />

them out <strong>and</strong> because their dreams are our dreams too in the thing was, was that they wanted to see<br />

something before they passed away– Interviewee #4<br />

.....................<br />

we had pots al<strong>on</strong>g the transect <strong>and</strong> we would do day <strong>and</strong> night dives <strong>on</strong> them to see if there's any<br />

difference. Then we would actually, before the pot was pulled up, we would dive down to that pot to<br />

see how much crayfish were <strong>on</strong> the outside of the pot <strong>and</strong> how much was inside ... – Interviewee #4<br />

.....................<br />

but now we are also, we've got a stunted growth, like the native mussel, down in the fr<strong>on</strong>t there <strong>and</strong><br />

there's so much of that they are competing for food so they are really small. – Interviewee #4<br />

.....................<br />

That was another barrier, people would always blame something else <strong>and</strong> I started to think, well that's a<br />

natural human thing isn't it? Instead of blaming ourselves, whereas a matter of fact, it was us <strong>and</strong> this is<br />

all proved. All these rāhui <strong>and</strong> research that we found out, they've realised it's us <strong>and</strong> it's ourselves. It's<br />

not, a lot of the things when we did (?) surveys, people, local people used to see these flash boats go<br />

out, come back in, ‘Oh, there's 6 rods <strong>on</strong> there that means he's taken his quota, 20 fish per pers<strong>on</strong>,’ <strong>and</strong><br />

I was like, ‘Dear, oh dear, when are we going to underst<strong>and</strong> that it's ourselves?’ That’s why we did (?)<br />

survey, to write down, get the informati<strong>on</strong> down because people are still blaming the Pākehā. –<br />

Interviewee #4<br />

.....................<br />

here's a typical example, Pākehā goes out, flash boat, with the biscuit <strong>and</strong> everything, dive gear <strong>and</strong><br />

stuff, comes back, two kahawai, so happy, over the mo<strong>on</strong> about these two kahawai, Māori go out, two<br />

boats, two big bins full of kahawai, still not happy <strong>and</strong> then uses it for cray bait, you know, come <strong>on</strong>,<br />

Pākehā just went out for a feed. – Interviewee #4<br />

.....................<br />

...you've got people using the current permit system as a tool, <strong>and</strong> forever will be a tool, to get<br />

undersized stuff, sort of mocking it a bit, ... So eliminate that, you'd have a particular boat that goes out,<br />

that does all the harvesting for customary. ... eliminating a whole lot of illegal stuff <strong>and</strong> then you've got<br />

to catch going to where it's supposed to go. That catch would also be m<strong>on</strong>itored. It will be measured.<br />

It will be recorded. – Interviewee #4<br />

.....................<br />

The Coastal Hapū Collective is that fish is <strong>on</strong>e of the many resource issues, resource <str<strong>on</strong>g>mana</str<strong>on</strong>g>gement issues<br />

that face the coastal hapū. We’re also interested in educati<strong>on</strong>, justice, agriculture, anything ec<strong>on</strong>omic<br />

around the vitality of a hapū– Interviewee #5<br />

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