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Mana moana, mana tangata Testimonies on depletion and ...

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like stuff you could get out in the ocean you could get in the estuary there was that good <strong>and</strong> that<br />

changed in 1958 when the government at the time subsidised farmers to drain their l<strong>and</strong>s <strong>and</strong> as a<br />

c<strong>on</strong>sequence the Kaituna River was diverted before it got to the estuary <strong>and</strong> so as a c<strong>on</strong>sequence I think<br />

we've <strong>on</strong>ly got now pipis left in our estuary, flounder, bit of pātiki, but that's it ... with the trying to drain<br />

l<strong>and</strong>s around here because this was a huge raupō area, ... there's all this pressure from farmers to get<br />

some drainage going so they could use the l<strong>and</strong> for dairying, whatever <strong>and</strong> that sort of happened late<br />

1950s. There'd been a big flood <strong>and</strong> so the government helped secure funding to divert the river ... the<br />

Ministry of Works was involved, drainage boards <strong>and</strong> that <strong>and</strong> the engineer said, ‘D<strong>on</strong>’t do it. It's not<br />

going to work,’ <strong>and</strong> the Ministry of Works, I think, refused to listen <strong>and</strong> did it <strong>and</strong> it didn't stop the<br />

flooding, but they put in the thing <strong>and</strong> then the groyne so it couldn't close again because they used to<br />

deal with it all the time to close up, nature used to close it <strong>and</strong> that's just how it happens here, put<br />

groynes in to keep it open here. The thing is that it never cured the flooding so that damage was d<strong>on</strong>e<br />

<strong>and</strong> since that time, really, it's just been, the Kaituna River has just been looked at as a big drain. ... Wai<br />

4 which was the claim for the Kaituna, Waitangi Tribunal claim <strong>and</strong> that happened when (?) Rotorua<br />

District Council were going to put their sewerage in because the Kaituna actually comes from (?) from<br />

Lake Rotoiti it starts <strong>and</strong> of course the Rotorua District Council at the time were going to put their<br />

sewage raw into pipes <strong>and</strong> then divert it down to the Kaituna River. ...It didn't matter the damage it had<br />

d<strong>on</strong>e, river’s just silted up since, or the estuary has. I think that for all of us in Maketu, the estuary was<br />

why we were here. It's quite emoti<strong>on</strong>al actually, so the estuary, the families that were st<strong>and</strong>ing by the<br />

estuary, it was just our culture really, <strong>and</strong> the estuary was why we were here. – Interviewee #15<br />

.....................<br />

When I first came out to Waihou with my [X] I was 16, watercress was all up <strong>and</strong> down the river. We<br />

could go there now <strong>and</strong> you could hardly find any, you know, it’s a good 25 years later. So you know,<br />

the obvious <strong>on</strong>es, the sedimentati<strong>on</strong>, (?) nutrient loading from the surrounding farml<strong>and</strong>s, all of those<br />

things that have impacted <strong>on</strong> our waterways, but really the probably biggest significant influence <strong>on</strong><br />

that has been the local authorities <strong>and</strong> I guess, the disc<strong>on</strong>necti<strong>on</strong> between the iwi <strong>and</strong> the local<br />

authorities historically in that there were no dialogue between them to, for us to share the loss of those<br />

resources <strong>and</strong> also, I guess, they had no taringa at the time to hear any of the kōrero so thankfully that’s<br />

starting to change but yeah, that’s a huge questi<strong>on</strong>. I think it boils down to the loss of rangatiratanga<br />

over the ability to c<strong>on</strong>trol the l<strong>and</strong> <strong>and</strong> what it was used for which has created the situati<strong>on</strong> we have<br />

now. – Interviewee #18<br />

.....................<br />

You got to be so careful, like <strong>on</strong>e time they had a c<strong>on</strong>tract digging the pipeline, well they were supposed<br />

to go underground across the pipi bed at (Rowaihi?) to (Pukehina?) to this water main, but they’re<br />

supposed to go underground. Apparently he ran into trouble <strong>and</strong> so he used a bloody digger, going in at<br />

low tide <strong>and</strong> digging up this trench <strong>and</strong> these people ring me up from (Rowaihi?) says, ‘Jesus<br />

[Interviewee #19], you better get down here!’ So I got down there <strong>and</strong> I thought, ‘Oh Christ,’ <strong>and</strong> I<br />

stopped the c<strong>on</strong>tract work. I stopped the c<strong>on</strong>tract work. I said, ‘Listen, we’re going to have to talk<br />

about this because you’re going over pipi beds <strong>and</strong> stuff,’ <strong>and</strong> he said, ‘Oh I d<strong>on</strong>’t think there’s any pipi<br />

beds here. ...,’ I said that’s by-the-by, they move.’ I said they move so we closed the whole operati<strong>on</strong><br />

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