Mana moana, mana tangata Testimonies on depletion and ...

But yeah, my utopia would be the like that my ancestors, in terms of fish anyway, would have no
problems. – Interviewee #3
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I’d like to see environmental revitalisation, some sort of overlap with mātauranga Māori. – Interviewee
#5
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Interviewer #1 -If you had a utopia for the Kairakau Lands Trust, if you had a free, a blank canvas on how
the <strong>moana</strong> looks and you were the person that set the rules and the standards and everything for that
rohe, what does that picture look like [X]?
Interviewee #6 – Plenty of kai<strong>moana</strong>,
Interviewee #7 – Yeah
Interviewee #6 – Closer to shore and accessible and onsite kaitiaki that have <strong>mana</strong>gement guidelines or
just guidelines with how they issued permits and a plan to how they <strong>mana</strong>ge the rohe <strong>moana</strong>, little
interfering from the government [laughs] good relationships with community, lots of enforcement,
100% compliance [laughs]. You said ‘utopia’.
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We wanted the long-term objective is about kaitiakitanga. It is about being able to demonstrate
kaitiakitanga now and in the future. It's also about sustainability of resourcing and it's also going back to
using some of the traditional noa forms of how sustainability goes including closed areas, (erama?), but
the long-term objective of such a plan was to make sure there was kai for our tamariki and their tamariki
and their (kiatu?) and using today's environment, we thought that the plan would move us somewhere
down that track. – Interviewee #11
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That picture looks like an abundance. It looks like species choice. It looks like healthy environment. It
looks like better awareness between all communities, yeah and it looks like an abundance for all in a
sustainable way. – Interviewee #11
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we needed to clearly identify areas that could be set aside say, for the children and you know, family
areas and other areas that could be set aside for fishermen so that that clash, we could at least educate
them. We did talk about setting up things such as aquaculture farms, looking at reseeding the awa with
both – the main focus was actually koura, but we did also note that the possibility if we could get the
funding and plus the expertise, which is more important, looking at freshwater, indigenous freshwater
fish. – Interviewee #14
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