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I think the biggest problem is ... the poachers or these people who just d<strong>on</strong>’t listen to the rules. I mean<br />

we’ve got all the Ministry signs up saying what the sizes are, what the catch is <strong>and</strong> people still d<strong>on</strong>’t<br />

listen <strong>and</strong> that’s where I sympathise with the, you know, with the compliance people. They just d<strong>on</strong>’t,<br />

Ministry just doesn’t have enough people <strong>on</strong> the ground. I think they do a good, the Ministry does a<br />

good job in the coastal watch you know, because you see it <strong>on</strong> TV <strong>and</strong> I think they’re doing a marvellous<br />

job, but I think there needs to be more budget for, to have more compliance people because I think, I’m<br />

not too sure what the numbers are from within our area – Interviewee #26<br />

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Interviewee #25b – Well to use a good example, we used to have lots of kina eaters, we d<strong>on</strong>’t anymore.<br />

They used to come down every weekend from wherever, from inl<strong>and</strong> to the beach, carloads, 8, 9, 10<br />

carloads of a whanau would turn up <strong>and</strong> all it would do was get kina. That’s all they were interested in<br />

was kina, by the sackload, take them back to wherever. When the works fell over <strong>and</strong> they lost their<br />

ec<strong>on</strong>omic transport ability, they d<strong>on</strong>’t come down any more. The c<strong>on</strong>sequence, kina populati<strong>on</strong>s are<br />

(burging?) <strong>and</strong> they have been negative in terms of decimating the seaweed <strong>and</strong> the other ecology<br />

surrounding it, so we all lose out because the people from inl<strong>and</strong> d<strong>on</strong>'t come <strong>and</strong> get kina like they used<br />

to. Pākehā they recognise it, they’ll go out there <strong>and</strong> they just w<strong>on</strong>’t eat them but they’ll smash them<br />

open <strong>and</strong> reduce their impact ... it’s all over the bay. We have a big problem with kina. Kina are<br />

creating barrens.<br />

Interviewee #5b – They’re not a good kina either are they? Because they’re all competing for what little<br />

foods there are<br />

Interviewee #25b – They’re skinny. They’re underformed. They’re in starvati<strong>on</strong> mode<br />

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Interviewee #15b – the council is going to re-divert the river back through the estuary. So the dynamics<br />

will change <strong>and</strong> like you said, like a lot of the Pākehā people are <strong>on</strong>to it <strong>and</strong> doing their best, but our<br />

own people from inl<strong>and</strong> come over as if they’ve got a God-given right to just plunder, basically.<br />

Interviewee 33b – And have they lived within the rules of the taiāpure?<br />

Interviewee #15b – No, because they d<strong>on</strong>’t, they’ve got kaumatua inl<strong>and</strong> that write out their permits<br />

<strong>and</strong> it’s allowed by law. You know, every marae inl<strong>and</strong> writes out a permit. They’ve got no idea what<br />

the stocks are like or if there’s been a tangi or a drowning or a rāhui or anything, just plunder <strong>and</strong><br />

sometimes you see like those people that have got swept out to sea <strong>on</strong> their boat, you know, the boat<br />

ran out of petrol or something<br />

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