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PANEL<br />

THREE<br />

Addressing Future Arms<br />

Control and Security Problems<br />

CHAIR: Catherine Kelleher,<br />

Editor, Naval War College<br />

Review<br />

DENYING NUCLEAR<br />

WEAPONS TO<br />

TERRORISTS: Matthew<br />

Bunn, Senior Research Associate,<br />

Project on<br />

Managing the Atom<br />

STEMMING MISSILE<br />

PROLIFERATION: Richard<br />

Speier, Nonproliferation<br />

Consultant<br />

THE ROLE OF NUCLEAR<br />

WEAPONS IN U.S.<br />

SECURITY POLICY: Gen.<br />

Eugene Habiger, former Commander<br />

in Chief of the U.S.<br />

Strategic Command<br />

CATHERINE KELLEHER: Hello. I’m Catherine Kelleher, and I’m very<br />

pleased and honored to have the chance to introduce this panel. I think it’s<br />

been a splendid morning, and certainly with an agenda of topics that make<br />

this panel about assessing future directions in arms control and in security<br />

even more important as we bring this wonderful day to fruition.<br />

I’d like to start, if I could—it’s a cheap trick but I’ll do it anyway—<br />

with arguing with the last speaker, Senator Biden, in what otherwise I think<br />

was a very stimulating address and certainly one that called on us to meet<br />

certain challenges in our future. He made an argument that perhaps it would<br />

be a good idea if the future would be like the past. I would at least like to<br />

challenge my fellow panelists to say, is the future really going to be like the<br />

past? Now are the forms, the techniques, the tool kit of arms control really<br />

going to be the same, or are there challenges about the evolving international<br />

system, about the ways in which we have found to cooperate in finding<br />

answers to meeting the challenges of proliferation, or even the restraint<br />

and constraint of arms development and spread really going to be the same<br />

as those tools and instruments and tool kits from the golden age of arms<br />

control, if it ever existed?<br />

You have the biographies of what is truly a distinguished panel in<br />

your pamphlets, so without further ado from me I’ll start with Matt Bunn,<br />

who will be our first speaker, followed by Richard Speier, and then by General<br />

Habiger.<br />

MATTHEW BUNN: Thank you, Catherine. In terms of the tool boxes<br />

of the future versus the past, it’s interesting that I don’t think the word<br />

“treaty” appears anywhere in my particular presentation. While the present<br />

is in some respects worse in the subject area I’m going to talk about than the<br />

past, we can hope, if we take effective policy action, for the future to be better<br />

than the past. But the actions that need to be taken are largely in the way of<br />

national actions or international cooperation in various formal and informal<br />

fora, rather than negotiation of formal treaty regimes in this particular<br />

area.<br />

It’s an interesting point because very often, certainly when I was in the<br />

government, there were different views as to how to move forward. The<br />

traditional response in some quarters of the State Department was “we’ve<br />

got to go meet with the Foreign Ministry people and negotiate a text about<br />

what we’re going to do.” The response at the labs was “let’s go to talk to<br />

their technical guys and see if we can get something going.” That in fact<br />

often worked a lot better. There were things you can do over a couple of<br />

vodkas at a site that you would never manage to get going at headquarters<br />

in Moscow.<br />

I’m in the fortunate position that while there’s a time constraint, I will<br />

be more easily able to meet it because Senator Biden covered approximately<br />

half of what I was going to say. The basic points being that there remains a<br />

serious threat that terrorists might get nuclear materials and that they might<br />

be able to make a nuclear weapon if they did. And then I’m going to go on<br />

from there to talk about what programs we have in place to deal with that<br />

and what more ought to be done.<br />

First of all, there are a number of myths, some of which Senator Biden<br />

already debunked. In particular, the notion that it would be almost impossible<br />

to make a nuclear bomb even if you got the nuclear material; that it<br />

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