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have a beer or another cup of tea. By such means, we managed to plan and design and make<br />

camera-ready a book of just over 40 poets, just under 160 pages, without noticing too much and<br />

without spending too much m<strong>on</strong>ey.<br />

<strong>The</strong> real problem was enabling the poets to say what they had to say in so few pages. As I have<br />

indicated, <strong>Cobbing</strong> and I were used to collaborating with each other and with others; but we had<br />

never d<strong>on</strong>e anything like this before, and we each had a different history of working in the specific<br />

areas covered by the anthology.<br />

<strong>Cobbing</strong> had co-edited the earlier verbivisivoco, Writers Forum’s 500th publicati<strong>on</strong>; but the source<br />

material for that remarkable book was the other 499 Writers Forum publicati<strong>on</strong>s. Verbivisivoco<br />

showcases aspects of the work that Writers Forum had already published. Word Score Utterance<br />

Choreography was entirely different and it was new territory for both of us.<br />

I had thought that our aesthetic differences might be a problem, but in fact they seem to have<br />

been productive! <strong>The</strong>re is an energy to the finished product, for which we can take no individual<br />

credit, which would not have been there if <strong>on</strong>e of us had put the book together <strong>on</strong> their own.<br />

Throughout, there was the need to co-operate with each other and rec<strong>on</strong>cile, in this c<strong>on</strong>text,<br />

aesthetic differences amicably and easily without compromising them. That isn’t necessarily easy<br />

and I am not sure quite how we did it, but we did.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re was no way that we could include all the poets who might be included so we had to be<br />

selective and that meant that we had to discuss exactly what the inclusi<strong>on</strong> of each and every poet<br />

would bring to the whole.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re were a few whom I knew through c<strong>on</strong>tacts <strong>on</strong> the Internet, a facility <strong>Cobbing</strong> does not have;<br />

and he has c<strong>on</strong>tacts and informati<strong>on</strong> going back decades before I was thinking <strong>on</strong> these matters.<br />

Initially, we each drew up a list of proposed c<strong>on</strong>tributors. Although we shared a few names, the<br />

lists were fairly different in their priorities so that, although neither of us started with anything<br />

like enough definite names, we had nearly enough by the end of the first editorial meeting; but the<br />

list did change as we worked.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re were several c<strong>on</strong>flicts of opini<strong>on</strong> and, in retrospect, I find them to have been <strong>on</strong>ly useful.<br />

One had to give reas<strong>on</strong>s for inclusi<strong>on</strong> and exclusi<strong>on</strong>, reas<strong>on</strong>s good enough to persuade the other. In<br />

trying to give them <strong>on</strong>e began to see the other side.<br />

Because space was so tight, we needed a guiding structure and that was to have a linear poem,<br />

that is a c<strong>on</strong>venti<strong>on</strong>ally-presented poem, a visual poem and a statement, linking, comparing and<br />

commenting up<strong>on</strong> the poems as exemplary. To help with the statement, we provided a series of<br />

questi<strong>on</strong>s that could be answered directly, indirectly or thrown away:<br />

• Are your visual texts intended for performance or for the page al<strong>on</strong>e?<br />

• If used for performance, to what extent are your visual texts strict notati<strong>on</strong> and to what extent<br />

are they starting points?<br />

• Do you make/perform n<strong>on</strong>-alphabetic signs?

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