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Wednesday, 1 March 2017 Senate Page 33<br />

Major Gen. Coghlan: For an indicative one-man ration pack, 11 items or 25 per cent are Australian in origin;<br />

56 per cent are New Zealand in origin; and the remaining 19 per cent come from the United States, Vietnam or<br />

China. I can go through individual items to give you an idea of the type of product if you like.<br />

Senator XENOPHON: If you are on a roll, why not. Just give us an idea.<br />

Senator Payne: This could take a while, Senator. I can actually see the page that this is written on. Would you<br />

like to have it provided on notice?<br />

Senator XENOPHON: I might get it tabled, but just give me an idea. What is Australian?<br />

Major Gen. Coghlan: Sure. I might go from the other end—what is not Australian and New Zealand. The<br />

Chinese sourced items are very basic in nature—matches, spoons, 10 sheets of toilet paper.<br />

Senator XENOPHON: You do know that Kimberly-Clark makes toilet paper in the south-east of South<br />

Australia, don't you?<br />

CHAIR: You are interrupting, of course, and wasting time. We are up to toilet paper. Keep going.<br />

Major Gen. Coghlan: And can-openers. As far as the food items are concerned, it depends on where the<br />

contractor sources it from. The Australian food component and the New Zealand food component vary. In this<br />

particular case I can go into detail for one particular ration pack at a given point in time.<br />

Senator XENOPHON: Can you tender that? Are you in a position to tender that?<br />

Major Gen. Coghlan: I can tender it.<br />

Senator XENOPHON: If that can be tendered through you.<br />

Air Chief Marshal Binskin: You are doing take-away, are you, Senator?<br />

Senator XENOPHON: That is right.<br />

Air Chief Marshal Binskin: I was just checking.<br />

Senator XENOPHON: Air Chief Marshall, I did not know you had that sense of humour.<br />

Senator Payne: Yes, you did. We have to have a sense of humour to get through this process.<br />

Senator XENOPHON: Not during estimates. If that can be tendered—can that be tendered now?<br />

Major Gen. Coghlan: Yes. It is double-sided. I will provide you with a single-sided—<br />

Senator XENOPHON: That is fine. The new procurement rules that the Commonwealth has agreed to have<br />

come into force today. To what extent do they apply to Defence in terms of the requirement for Australian<br />

standard goods, looking at the economic impact of any purchases over $4 million? Mr Gillis, can you tell me to<br />

what extent—there will be an inquiry into procurement specifically, but will the new rules apply to any decision<br />

made by the Commonwealth in respect of the ration pack?<br />

Mr Gillis: I will ask my acting first assistant secretary for contracting and procurement, Ms Bergmann, to<br />

answer that question. She is specifically prepared for that.<br />

Senator XENOPHON: Ms Bergmann, you are familiar with the new procurement rules that come into force<br />

today?<br />

Ms Bergmann: Absolutely.<br />

Senator XENOPHON: Will they be applying to this tender? It is worth how much approximately?<br />

Major Gen. Coghlan: The last contract value was $89 million over an eight-year period. This tender closed<br />

on 28 February.<br />

Senator XENOPHON: So it is going to be over $10 million a year presumably? What will this be—in the<br />

order of at least $10 million a year presumably?<br />

Major Gen. Coghlan: Depending on the operational requirement or demand, it will vary.<br />

Senator KIM CARR: I was following that, but I did not quite hear you say that the new procurement rules<br />

apply to the contract.<br />

Senator Payne: It is not answered yet.<br />

Ms Bergmann: As you would know, the new CPRs come into effect today.<br />

Senator XENOPHON: It is a beautiful thing too.<br />

Ms Bergmann: Indeed. They do not apply to tender processes that commenced prior to 1 March.<br />

Senator XENOPHON: Is there any intent to conform with the spirit of those new tender processes—<br />

Australian made, taking into account ethical employment practices, environmental standards and the economic<br />

FOREIGN AFFAIRS, DEFENCE AND TRADE LEGISLATION COMMITTEE

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