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SUNDAY VANGUARD, APRIL 28, 2019, PAGE 25<br />
, Igbo,<br />
:<br />
rubbish!<br />
security in the <strong>No</strong>rth’<br />
y after stealing Nigeria’s money<br />
late. Balance of terror is either a military coup<br />
or civil rebellion like it happened in Sudan<br />
<strong>and</strong> Venezuela. So this <strong>go</strong>vernment is waiting<br />
for the balance of terror. In other words, they<br />
are waiting for forces that are more terrifying<br />
than they are before they do something.<br />
Do you think Venezuela’s ordeal is <strong>go</strong>od<br />
for us as a nation?<br />
How can such be <strong>go</strong>od for this country? But<br />
what will happen in a situation where the end<br />
of the road has been reached? There is no law<br />
<strong>and</strong> order <strong>and</strong> this disabling level of corruption<br />
<strong>and</strong> everything negative is happening. We are<br />
just waiting to see what will happen next.<br />
Those who are religious are saying “may God<br />
bring better days” but before you can pray to<br />
God, you have to make sure that you are clean<br />
yourself. How can a thief pray to God? But<br />
that is what most leaders in our country are<br />
(thieves) except those who are the exception<br />
rather than the rule?<br />
But with this disabling state of our nation,<br />
do you foresee better days?<br />
Yes, absolutely after a constitutional<br />
evolution or do you think things would<br />
change in Nigeria just because you are asking<br />
for it? For things to change for the better in<br />
Nigeria, there has to be a constitutional<br />
revolution, which means a peaceful change<br />
of the system without divide, but if this fails,<br />
as it happened in other countries, other forces<br />
are likely to take over. For instance, Iraqi is<br />
not at peace, Libya is not at peace, even those<br />
who have lesser problems like Sudan <strong>and</strong><br />
Venezuela are not at peace. So what would<br />
make any Nigerian, who has commonsense,<br />
think that what is happening in these<br />
countries will not happen in Nigeria where<br />
human dignity does not exist, national<br />
development doesn’t exist <strong>and</strong> only deceit <strong>and</strong><br />
vote-buying win elections? God cannot be<br />
deceived.<br />
What about those clamouring for<br />
restructuring, especially the Yoruba, Niger<br />
Deltans <strong>and</strong> Igbo, as the way out of our<br />
problems?<br />
Forget about the unnecessary clamour.<br />
Whatever <strong>go</strong>vernment you have, as long as<br />
there are no free, fair <strong>and</strong> legitimate elections;<br />
as long as the system controlling the<br />
development of our nation is not based on<br />
public interest but self-interest, the<br />
clamour for restructuring <strong>and</strong><br />
confederation is all rubbish. Those<br />
who talk about restructuring <strong>and</strong><br />
true federalism, if you ask them,<br />
they have nothing to justify it<br />
than talking about ethnic<br />
nationality; they are not<br />
talking about real<br />
national issues like<br />
unity, like democracy<br />
<strong>and</strong> development in the<br />
country. They are not<br />
talking about issues<br />
that compare us with<br />
developed countries in<br />
the world; they are<br />
talking about things<br />
that compare us with the<br />
worst people. Nigeria,<br />
with her resources, should<br />
be compared with one of<br />
the five<br />
m o s t<br />
blessed<br />
countries in the<br />
world. But these<br />
so-called leaders<br />
are busy talking about<br />
voting into office this<br />
useless person or voting out<br />
that useless person into the<br />
presidency, into the<br />
legislature or into the<br />
<strong>go</strong>vernment house at the<br />
state level, without<br />
demonstrable credibility<br />
<strong>and</strong> experience. That is all<br />
they are talking about.<br />
What about the disabling<br />
insecurity in the <strong>No</strong>rth?<br />
People are wasting their<br />
time talking about insecurity<br />
in the <strong>No</strong>rth. Immediately<br />
after the civil war, when the<br />
Federal Government<br />
obtained the instrument of<br />
surrender from the Biafrans,<br />
armed robbery started in the<br />
East. Before that time, I used<br />
to travel from Enugu to<br />
Kaduna, from La<strong>go</strong>s to<br />
Kaduna. I would drive in the<br />
night peacefully <strong>and</strong> arrive<br />
in Kaduna. I was doing this all over the<br />
country as a civil servant <strong>and</strong> nothing<br />
happened to me. But immediately after the<br />
civil war, armed robbery started from the<br />
South-East. Most informed Nigerians were<br />
warning the Federal Government that the<br />
rebels had surrendered but there was a<br />
problem <strong>and</strong> that if <strong>go</strong>vernment did not do<br />
something about it, the problem would get<br />
out of h<strong>and</strong>. It was not the problem of the<br />
South-East due to the civil war <strong>and</strong> not a<br />
problem we should be happy about because<br />
the Igbo had <strong>go</strong>t what they asked for as a<br />
consequence of the war! It was not a national<br />
problem but we said it could spread<br />
throughout the country, <strong>and</strong> <strong>go</strong>vernment did<br />
not listen. Years after, there was an armed<br />
robbery in every village in Nigeria. The same<br />
thing applies to Boko Haram when people<br />
were deceiving themselves that it was a<br />
<strong>No</strong>rth-East affair. Also when the herdsmen<br />
problem started, people were calling it a<br />
northern problem. But the consequence of all<br />
these is the failure of the <strong>go</strong>vernment to meet<br />
its responsibility to the people in the areas of<br />
addressing poverty, unemployment <strong>and</strong> the<br />
get rich mentality to the level that people are<br />
engaged in kidnapping in virtually every<br />
local <strong>go</strong>vernment <strong>and</strong> every ward in Nigeria.<br />
In fact, someone you know is connected to<br />
someone that abducts you. As it is today,<br />
nobody is safe for anybody to travel in Nigeria,<br />
even outside your village because of the fear<br />
of being abducted for ransom. So, we are<br />
deceiving ourselves. Instead of taking<br />
national measures when issues arise, we are<br />
taking sectional measures until the whole<br />
problem overwhelms everybody. As it is,<br />
nobody is safe today! A cleaner is not safe,<br />
the President is not safe; who then is <strong>go</strong>ing to<br />
save Nigeria? Did you hear of the abduction<br />
of an Islamic cleric in the <strong>No</strong>rth whose<br />
specialty is the reading of the Quran? Why<br />
did the abductors do that? Because they<br />
believed that if they abduct such a person,<br />
even if he doesn’t have money, there are <strong>others</strong><br />
who would <strong>pay</strong> the ransom to free him <strong>and</strong><br />
this is exactly what happened. So, nobody is<br />
safe because the system <strong>and</strong> the leadership<br />
have produced only thieves.<br />
But how did we get here as a nation?<br />
It is a long history. We can talk about that to<br />
only those who have time to listen! In the 50s,<br />
despite the level of poverty <strong>and</strong> limited<br />
opportunities, these problems didn’t exist<br />
because there was the obedience to law <strong>and</strong><br />
order. For instance, when I started work in<br />
1953, nobody can steal a kobo of public fund<br />
<strong>and</strong> get away with it, whoever you might be,<br />
you are <strong>go</strong>ing to get punished according to<br />
the law. But, today, you can steal one third of<br />
the budget of the country <strong>and</strong> get away with<br />
it as long as you are the<br />
surrogate of the<br />
President, a <strong>go</strong>vernor, a<br />
minister or someone in<br />
authority. We had a<br />
case of a minister who<br />
stole N83billion <strong>and</strong> it<br />
was proved in court; he<br />
But, today, you<br />
can steal one<br />
third of the<br />
budget of the<br />
country <strong>and</strong> get<br />
away with it as<br />
long as you are<br />
the surrogate of<br />
the President, a<br />
<strong>go</strong>vernor, a<br />
minister or<br />
someone in<br />
authority<br />
was jailed for two years<br />
only. <strong>No</strong>w he is a hero<br />
in his community, a<br />
hero in his state, a hero<br />
in his political party<br />
<strong>and</strong> a hero in Nigeria.<br />
This type of thing is<br />
what makes it difficult<br />
for us to deal with the<br />
disabling level of<br />
corruption <strong>and</strong> waste of<br />
resources in the<br />
country because<br />
everybody wants to be<br />
something when he or<br />
she has such<br />
opportunity.<br />
Do you think these<br />
challenges justify the<br />
call for true federalism?<br />
True federalism <strong>and</strong><br />
restructuring are<br />
different things<br />
entirely. Those who<br />
talk about true federalism, in reality, are<br />
talking of true federal system of <strong>go</strong>vernment<br />
where power is shared between the centre<br />
<strong>and</strong> the <strong>states</strong> <strong>and</strong> various units. Those who<br />
are calling for true federalism <strong>and</strong><br />
restructuring are honest but the issue is the<br />
problem of the regions.