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Case #07-120588<br />

May 24,2007 [cv]<br />

Wit~ess Statement<br />

Detl L..-____ .......<br />

Detl<br />

Witness:<br />

Steve Hobbs:<br />

Witness:<br />

Steve Hobbs:<br />

Ijust have a question ... who, who set the goal of twelve thousand registrations? Is that an<br />

ACORN goal?<br />

Mmhm.<br />

And who communicated that goal to you? Who was that?<br />

Urn ... I'm not sure that I remember precisely one individual. Urn ... or it might have been<br />

twelve-five too.<br />

Sure.<br />

Witness: Urn ...<br />

Steve Hobbs: But there was a number ...<br />

Witness: Sure ... and I do have notebooks about this but ... that was ... that's what I recalL .. !. ..<br />

Steve Hobbs: Wheq ~ame out and spoke with you did she say you're not gonna make the<br />

goal ... this isn't gonna work ... we're asking you to leave ... or what was the conversation?<br />

Witness:<br />

Steve Hobbs:<br />

Witness:<br />

Steve Hobbs:<br />

Witness:<br />

Steve Hobbs:<br />

Witness:<br />

Steve Hobbs:<br />

Witness:<br />

I don't think that. .. that they couched it in terms of urn ... the numerical achievement.<br />

That I wasn't. .. ya know 1. .. 1 really don't remember.<br />

Okay.<br />

She just said that I was fired.<br />

(Unintelligible) and didn't give you a reason.<br />

I'm sure that she did. I.. .think !took it easier and didn't press her as hard as she might<br />

have anticipated. She mentioned that at one point. It wasn't a surprise. I ex .. .I kind of<br />

expected it when she came because there was no other reason for her to come out. In<br />

terms of the way the process worked.<br />

And the way the process worked was that. .. quotas were being communicated and your<br />

continued employment was contingent upon reaching the quotas.<br />

During the training in Ohio it was .. .it was real clear and in Baltimore that urn ... no one is<br />

kept on staff unless they are able to pro ... produce. And um .. .it was interesting to see the<br />

mixture of people who had education and ... the people who didn't. Who would come up<br />

through the ranks ...<br />

Right.<br />

... from urn ... but. . .it was pretty clear that each state had a goal and that that was tied to<br />

the grant that they have for ... that funds these and .. .it was intimated that at some point<br />

things had been looser in terms of the flow of money but that controls were set up so that<br />

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