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1105 Political Parties and Elections Bill [17 JUNE 2009] Political Parties and Elections Bill 1106<br />
reference agencies to check the names and addresses<br />
<strong>of</strong> people applying for credit, so helping them to get<br />
into debt, but not for the process <strong>of</strong> recovering sums<br />
borrowed and helping people to get out <strong>of</strong> debt. I am<br />
not against agencies being able to utilise the full register<br />
for that purpose. As the Credit Services Association<br />
quite justifiably points out in its briefing:<br />
“Desired access to the electoral roll by the direct mailing and<br />
marketing industry should not be linked with the completely<br />
different requirements <strong>of</strong> the debt collection industry”.<br />
I concur. I would be content for the agencies to have<br />
access to the full register and would support the<br />
Government in making the necessary adjustments for<br />
that purpose.<br />
Secondly, as my noble friend Lord Bates observed<br />
in Committee, if there is demand for such a product by<br />
direct mailing and marketing bodies, market forces<br />
will take care <strong>of</strong> it. My amendment allows time for the<br />
market to operate. This is clearly something appropriate<br />
to the market and not to misusing statutory provisions<br />
for commercial purposes.<br />
My basic point is straightforward. The process <strong>of</strong><br />
employing the force <strong>of</strong> law to compile the electoral<br />
register should be confined to that task. Electoral<br />
registration <strong>of</strong>ficers should be allowed to get on with<br />
their tasks as electoral registration <strong>of</strong>ficers. They are<br />
not, or rather should not be, in the business <strong>of</strong> helping<br />
junk mail companies. Given that the costs <strong>of</strong> compiling<br />
the edited register are not wholly recovered, we are in<br />
effect subsidising commercial concerns. We are doing<br />
so through the use <strong>of</strong> statute, through the use <strong>of</strong> a<br />
provision that is fundamental to the democratic process.<br />
Requiring people to decide whether they wish to remove<br />
their name from the edited register is a misuse <strong>of</strong> that<br />
process. We should restore the integrity <strong>of</strong> our electoral<br />
registration process. We certainly should not use it to<br />
subsidise commercial concerns.<br />
Other democracies manage to survive without such<br />
an edited register. Their economies do not appear to<br />
be undermined by the absence <strong>of</strong> such a register. We<br />
should get rid <strong>of</strong> it. It is in principle objectionable and<br />
it imposes an unnecessary burden. I beg to move.<br />
Lord Hodgson <strong>of</strong> Astley Abbotts: My Lords, I support<br />
my noble friend. I have been astonished by the amount<br />
<strong>of</strong> paper that I have received on this amendment from<br />
the Finance and Leasing Association, the Credit Services<br />
Association, the Institute <strong>of</strong> Fundraising and the UK<br />
Cards Association opposing him—I also received<br />
something from the Electoral Commission supporting<br />
him—so I listened carefully to what he had to say.<br />
My concerns are primarily threefold. First is the<br />
civil liberties argument. I am always concerned about<br />
information being collected for one purpose and then<br />
being passed on to be used for another, and my<br />
concerns have been increased by the examples given by<br />
my noble friend. The second is what I might describe<br />
as an ecological argument; that is to say, I suspect that<br />
what we are allowing here increases the volume <strong>of</strong><br />
junk mail that travels through all our letterboxes. It is<br />
unnecessary, untidy and wasteful <strong>of</strong> our resources.<br />
The third is what I describe as the economic argument.<br />
I understand that the information is provided at cost,<br />
and I do not see why there should not be an economic<br />
charge for it, which would at least reward the local<br />
authorities and those involved for the expense, trouble<br />
and management time required to provide it. That<br />
does not happen at present; therefore, as my noble<br />
friend pointed out, this is a subsidising <strong>of</strong> the private<br />
sector by the state, which is inherently undesirable.<br />
My civil liberties argument is the most critical. We<br />
should make every effort to ensure that information<br />
collected is used for the purposes for which it is<br />
collected, and not passed to somebody else for use in a<br />
completely different way. Although the Electoral<br />
Commission says that it has worries about the drafting<br />
<strong>of</strong> the amendment, it strongly supports it. And given<br />
that the Minister has so <strong>of</strong>ten in the past prayed in aid<br />
the Electoral Commission when rejecting our arguments,<br />
I hope that on this occasion he will see the logic <strong>of</strong> its<br />
position and ensure that my noble friend’s amendment<br />
is accepted.<br />
Lord Brooke <strong>of</strong> Sutton Mandeville: My Lords, every<br />
possible argument in favour <strong>of</strong> this extremely sensible<br />
proposal has been put forward by my noble friends. By<br />
rising to speak, I give the government Front Bench an<br />
opportunity for information to arrive from the distant<br />
corners <strong>of</strong> the Chamber. I declare that I am a foot<br />
soldier in the army commanded by my noble friend<br />
Lord Norton.<br />
Lord Bates: My Lords, in Committee my noble<br />
friend Lord Henley and I tabled an amendment that<br />
was similar in effect because we were persuaded by the<br />
argument put forward. The principle was very clear<br />
and has been ably articulated by my noble friend Lord<br />
Norton <strong>of</strong> Louth.<br />
It covered two pieces <strong>of</strong> very persuasive evidence.<br />
The first was the intervention <strong>of</strong> the Information<br />
Commissioner, Richard Thomas, and Mark Walport,<br />
director <strong>of</strong> the medical charity the Wellcome Trust,<br />
who, in their <strong>report</strong> published in July, said:<br />
“The edited register is available for sale to anyone for any<br />
purpose. Its main clients are direct marketing companies and<br />
companies compiling directories”.<br />
The point <strong>of</strong> this amendment is to make it clear that<br />
one must opt into the edited register and thus make it<br />
harder to sell information on to third parties.<br />
In addition, the Local Government Association<br />
carried out a survey <strong>of</strong> electoral registration <strong>of</strong>ficers,<br />
98 per cent <strong>of</strong> whom wanted a change in the law to<br />
abolish the edited register that councils have to sell to<br />
direct marketing companies, and 88 per cent <strong>of</strong> electoral<br />
registration <strong>of</strong>ficers believed that the current system<br />
deters people from voting. The survey also found that<br />
councils raise on average only a mere £1,900 from this<br />
source.<br />
Putting together all <strong>of</strong> those arguments that were<br />
so eloquently persuasive, I rose in Grand Committee<br />
and asked whether this was not an opportunity for<br />
a change. I should have realised that although<br />
taking on various groups is perhaps necessary in<br />
the course <strong>of</strong> public life, taking on direct marketing<br />
companies is a recipe for being inundated with e-mails,<br />
paper and representations. They certainly lived up to<br />
the reputation <strong>of</strong> their direct-marketing capabilities by<br />
making representations in between the Grand Committee<br />
and now.