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1061 Sri Lanka<br />

[17 JUNE 2009]<br />

Banks: Lending<br />

1062<br />

Lord Brett: My Lords, the noble Lord raises important<br />

questions. Through our high commission in Colombo,<br />

we are taking the opportunity to co-ordinate our<br />

efforts with international bodies, first, to look at the<br />

humanitarian situation but, beyond that, to look at<br />

the development <strong>of</strong> that country, which will depend<br />

on the international financial institutions that are<br />

being asked to provide assistance. In the political<br />

sense, it has to be for Sri Lankans to come together<br />

with the will to sit down and find a political solution.<br />

If they do that, I am sure that they will find no lack <strong>of</strong><br />

international contributors to assist both the political<br />

and economic processes.<br />

Baroness Rawlings: My Lords, what contact have<br />

Her Majesty’s Government had with the Chinese<br />

Government regarding their support for the Sri Lankan<br />

Government on the Tamil question?<br />

Lord Brett: My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness<br />

for her question. I confess that, while <strong>of</strong> course I have<br />

studied my voluminous brief for many hours, I could<br />

spend 10 minutes trying to find the answer without<br />

having a clue where to find it, because I do not think<br />

that it is there. We have an ongoing dialogue with the<br />

Chinese Government on many issues and this is one <strong>of</strong><br />

them. I will take her question on board and seek to<br />

provide an answer.<br />

Baroness Howarth <strong>of</strong> Breckland: My Lords, how<br />

will the aid be monitored in relation to those refugees<br />

who will be taken out <strong>of</strong> the camps and repatriated? I<br />

ask this particularly knowing that many women and<br />

children in those camps have been both physically and<br />

sexually abused and will need very careful therapeutic<br />

and tending help, as well as all the practical help that<br />

they need. There is a worry about how that will be<br />

monitored through the system.<br />

Lord Brett: My Lords, the first responsibility for<br />

that will, <strong>of</strong> course, fall to the Government <strong>of</strong> Sri<br />

Lanka, but the noble Baroness is absolutely right in<br />

saying that it is important to ensure that it is provided.<br />

The presence <strong>of</strong> the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> and such<br />

international non-governmental organisations as the<br />

International Red Cross will assist in that. I am sure<br />

that the <strong>United</strong> <strong>Kingdom</strong> Government will do everything<br />

that they can to ensure that such monitoring takes<br />

place.<br />

Banks: Lending<br />

Question<br />

3.15 pm<br />

Asked By Lord Barnett<br />

To ask Her Majesty’s Government what further<br />

discussions they have had with banks regarding<br />

their lending to businesses and <strong>house</strong> buyers.<br />

The Financial Services Secretary to the Treasury<br />

(Lord Myners): My Lords, at the 2008 Pre-Budget<br />

Report the Government announced the creation <strong>of</strong> a<br />

new lending panel which meets regularly to monitor<br />

lending to businesses and <strong>house</strong>holds. The lending<br />

panel is supported by the home finance forum, the<br />

consumer finance forum and the small business finance<br />

forum, which consider mortgage lending, consumer<br />

credit and lending to businesses. In addition to these<br />

meetings, Ministers and <strong>of</strong>ficials meet a wide range <strong>of</strong><br />

stakeholders, including financial institutions, to discuss<br />

matters relating to the economy, including lending.<br />

Lord Barnett: My Lords, I thank my noble friend<br />

for that Answer. Does he agree with what the Deputy<br />

Governor <strong>of</strong> the Bank <strong>of</strong> England said last week? It is<br />

worth quoting. He said that unless banks increase<br />

their lending,<br />

“recovery might end up being anaemic, at best”.<br />

Also last week, the Prime Minister said that the banks<br />

have agreed to lend an additional £70 billion above<br />

what they had lent the previous year. But those are<br />

promises. In practice, there is ample evidence that the<br />

banks are still not lending as they should. I am sure<br />

that my noble friend is aware that in the case even <strong>of</strong><br />

small business loan guarantee schemes, matching funds<br />

are required. In housing, where the banks previously<br />

lent 125 per cent, they are now—when prices are<br />

lower—demanding at least 40 per cent. Is the panel<br />

doing anything about that? After all, at the moment,<br />

all that we have are promises. What action do the<br />

Government or the lending panel agree to take in the<br />

event <strong>of</strong> the promises not being kept?<br />

Lord Myners: My Lords, I agree with Mr Paul<br />

Tucker’s comments. It is essential that the availability<br />

<strong>of</strong> credit is increased to support lending and economic<br />

activity, and that indeed is happening. It is happening<br />

particularly for larger companies, which are being<br />

supported by the capital markets through equity raising<br />

and bonds, but also for smaller businesses. The<br />

Government have done a considerable amount in this<br />

respect to encourage the process. The lending agreements<br />

that we have with Lloyds bank and Royal Bank <strong>of</strong><br />

Scotland commit those institutions to lending an extra<br />

£14 billion and £25 billion this year. HSBC has committed<br />

to lend an extra £15 billion, Barclays an extra £11 billion<br />

and Northern Rock up to an extra £5 billion. These<br />

agreements with those banks that have entered into<br />

the extended credit guarantee scheme and the asset<br />

protection scheme are legally enforceable. They are<br />

monitored on a monthly basis and I regularly meet the<br />

chief executives <strong>of</strong> banks. The week before last I met<br />

the chief executive <strong>of</strong> HSBC; last week I met the<br />

Abbey National and this week the Co-operative and<br />

Nationwide.<br />

Lord Forsyth <strong>of</strong> Drumlean: My Lords, does the<br />

Minister not recognise that the Government’s own<br />

plans to raise some £900 billion in the gilt markets will<br />

inevitably force up interest rates, adding to the burdens<br />

on those businesses that are able to obtain loans, and<br />

therefore reduce the speed <strong>of</strong> recovery?<br />

Lord Myners: My Lords, I am afraid that the noble<br />

Lord misdirects himself. If he looks at the evidence, he<br />

will see it suggests that there is considerable confidence<br />

in the gilt-edged market. I now have direct responsibility<br />

within the Treasury for the Debt Management Office,<br />

a very pr<strong>of</strong>essional unit that continues to fund our<br />

needs and requirements in an entirely practical way<br />

which is not damaging to interest rates. Therefore, we<br />

are not squeezing out the availability <strong>of</strong> funds to<br />

business and to private sector borrowers.

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