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1147 Political Parties and Elections Bill [LORDS] Political Parties and Elections Bill 1148<br />
those in hard-copy form. When armed services personnel<br />
are deployed overseas, that should be part <strong>of</strong> the<br />
checks made under the standard operating procedures.<br />
That would seem a sensible way forward. The Minister<br />
has undertaken to make representations to the Ministry<br />
<strong>of</strong> Defence. We are encouraged by that and I am<br />
grateful. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.<br />
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.<br />
Lord Greaves moved Amendment No. 84:<br />
84: After Clause 24, insert the following new Clause—<br />
“Rejected postal votes<br />
(1) Schedule 1 to the 1983 Act (parliamentary elections rules)<br />
is amended as follows.<br />
(2) After rule 31A (return <strong>of</strong> postal ballot papers) there is<br />
inserted—<br />
“Postal ballot papers not counted<br />
(1) Where a postal vote has been returned but not counted<br />
because the personal identifiers—<br />
(a) are absent,<br />
(b) are incomplete, or<br />
(c) do not match the personal identifiers provided with the<br />
application for a postal vote,<br />
the returning <strong>of</strong>ficer must record this information on a separate<br />
list (the list <strong>of</strong> postal votes returned but not counted) in addition<br />
to making the entry on the marked list.<br />
(2) The list <strong>of</strong> postal votes returned but not counted is a<br />
relevant election document for the purposes <strong>of</strong> section 42 <strong>of</strong> the<br />
Electoral Administration Act 2006.<br />
(3) The returning <strong>of</strong>ficer shall write to each elector whose<br />
returned postal vote has not been counted for a reason listed in<br />
paragraph (1) to inform them <strong>of</strong> the circumstances in which their<br />
vote has not been counted.”.”<br />
The noble Lord said: My Lords, as I am going to<br />
refer to some <strong>of</strong> the local information on Pendle about<br />
which the noble Lord, Lord Bates, was asking, I<br />
should declare an interest in that I was the Liberal<br />
Democrat agent for most <strong>of</strong> the county council candidates<br />
in the recent elections and attended counts on both<br />
Friday morning and Sunday evening. The matter raised<br />
by the amendment was one I referred to briefly in<br />
Committee on a different amendment, but I have now<br />
brought it back following the experience in the recent<br />
elections as there is a serious problem that needs to be<br />
tackled. I am moving the amendment in the hope that<br />
it is helpful.<br />
The amendment requires the returning <strong>of</strong>ficer to do<br />
two things. First, the returning <strong>of</strong>ficer must keep a<br />
separate list <strong>of</strong> those postal votes that have been<br />
returned, or where envelopes have been returned but<br />
where the votes have not been counted owing to a<br />
failure <strong>of</strong> the personal identifier system. In other<br />
words, the personal identifiers are absent, incomplete,<br />
or do not match the information that the council holds<br />
on file as a result <strong>of</strong> the application for a postal vote. I<br />
should say that I am particularly grateful to Gillian<br />
Hartley, who is the Pendle Council elections <strong>of</strong>ficer,<br />
for helping me to understand how the system works<br />
and what happens, and for providing me with the<br />
information that I shall <strong>of</strong>fer a little later.<br />
Secondly, the amendment requires the returning<br />
<strong>of</strong>ficer to write individually to each <strong>of</strong> the electors<br />
whose votes have not been counted because <strong>of</strong> a<br />
mismatch in or absence <strong>of</strong> the personal identifiers. At<br />
the moment, that does not happen. At the moment,<br />
two lists are produced after the election, which are<br />
available to candidates and political parties under the<br />
approved conditions.<br />
The first is the marked register, which shows the<br />
people who have turned up at polling stations and<br />
been given a ballot paper—and, presumably voted.<br />
The second is the postal voters list, which provides a<br />
list <strong>of</strong> those postal votes which have been returned at<br />
that election. The postal voters list includes all the<br />
envelopes that have been returned, because the list is<br />
compiled from information on the envelopes before<br />
they are opened and before the votes are opened, so it<br />
includes those which are not subsequently counted.<br />
The provision <strong>of</strong> that list, which did not happen before<br />
the passing <strong>of</strong> the Electoral Administration Act 2006,<br />
was partly a result <strong>of</strong> discussion that took place in<br />
your Lordships’ House on previous legislation, when<br />
it became clear that that list was required. Before then,<br />
the only list required was <strong>of</strong> the postal votes issued,<br />
not those returned.<br />
The current system is that if you send a postal vote<br />
back, the envelope is returned, received and opened.<br />
Inside that envelope, there should be a smaller envelope,<br />
sealed up, that includes the ballot paper and the piece<br />
<strong>of</strong> paper that contains the personal identifier. When<br />
those personal identifiers are checked—I have to say<br />
that Pendle, like most <strong>of</strong> the councils in the north-west,<br />
did a 100 per cent check <strong>of</strong> postal votes and the<br />
returning <strong>of</strong>ficer decided to do it last year in view <strong>of</strong><br />
the controversy over previous postal votes in Pendle—the<br />
sheet <strong>of</strong> personal identifiers comes in, it is fed into the<br />
machine that checks them and that computer-type<br />
machine checks whether the information about date <strong>of</strong><br />
birth and signature match the information that the<br />
council holds on its records. If the machine thinks that<br />
they match, it goes through. If the machine thinks that<br />
they do not match, or it is not sure, it is spewed out<br />
and on the screen, on the monitor, is displayed the<br />
information that the council holds on its records. That<br />
is then compared visually and manually by counting<br />
staff with the paper that has come in, and they decide<br />
whether, yes, they match sufficiently or no, they do<br />
not. That is how it actually works.<br />
We discussed this in Grand Committee, I brought<br />
evidence from two county councils by-elections this<br />
spring in Nelson, which is part <strong>of</strong> Pendle, in one <strong>of</strong><br />
which the number <strong>of</strong> rejected votes, because <strong>of</strong> a<br />
mismatch or absence <strong>of</strong> identifiers, was more than<br />
5 per cent <strong>of</strong> the total, and in the other, which was a<br />
substantially Asian ward, more than 10 per cent. This<br />
year, in the six county divisions within Pendle, which<br />
make up Pendle and the area that counted for the<br />
European elections, 485 returned envelopes were<br />
rejected—in other words, the ballot paper was not<br />
looked at and not counted—for failure to provide a<br />
matching identifier. In some cases, the identifiers were<br />
absent; in some cases, only one <strong>of</strong> them was there; in<br />
most cases, they did not match. This was approximately<br />
4.5 per cent <strong>of</strong> the total, on a return <strong>of</strong> postal votes <strong>of</strong><br />
about 70 per cent.<br />
In the most Asian division—I do not have the exact<br />
figure, but I think the Asian electorate is about 45 per<br />
cent <strong>of</strong> the total—the return <strong>of</strong> postal votes was<br />
81.7 per cent, and 11.6 per cent <strong>of</strong> the envelopes