mean it’s going to happen. So that means we are supposed to make the endeavor.That’s the whole point.As we mentioned in this grammatical example, the soul is connected to the wholeprocess of the interaction of the nouns by being connected to the verb. The soul isnot the controller, the soul is not the enjoyer, the soul is not the field of activity, it’snot the place of the activity, it’s not the result of the activity, it’s not the cause of theactivity, and the action itself is not us either. So that means the soul is not any of thenouns or verbs. But its connection with this process is to assist the verb in theinteraction of the nouns. So that is our position. So that means action is important.So without action nothing will happen. But that’s spiritual action. It’s materialinaction, it’s spiritual action.So that’s then the position, it’s by an activity that you are actually going toaccomplish this consciousness. Because you are going to do it. You can say I amservant of Krsna, but if you just stand there, the pots don’t get washed, so it’s nicethat you identified as Krsna’s servant, that’s good, but that’s called sambandha. Butthere service is called abhideya. So until you get in there and wash those pots it’s notabhideya. Thinking I am servant of Krsna is preliminaries to, but is not actually theactivity.Mother Yasoda is attracted to Krsna as a child, she loves Him as a child, but itdoesn’t stop there, she performs service constantly that Krsna is her child. There isnot a time when she is not doing that. So these others are experiences of thatattraction and love for Krsna, but it’s always expressed. The gopis are attracted byKrsna’s flute, they think of Him in their love for Him, then having gotten fromsambandha to prayojana, from thinking to feeling, then willing they go out to therasa dance. The gopis then they think, how cute is Krsna, and then they’ll go overand say something, do something, feed him. So in other words, these things are theimpetus, the uddipana, which makes us want to do service. So in the bhava thevibhava aspect then generates this interest based on the natural relationship. But it’sstill action is the essential principle.So the difficulty is due to ignorance we tend to think that by doing nothingeverything is going to happen nicely. I’ll just sit here and I will enjoy. I’ll sit here, donothing, I will control everything, and I will sit here and do nothing and enjoyeverything. When we are dealing with dead matter, generally we won’t agree withthis. We’ll say, well, that won’t get you the money, that won’t get you this and that.True. But we apply this very, very nicely in relationships. I’ll just sit here and theother party in the relationship is going to actually do everything. So this is then abreakdown. This is where the illusion comes in.It’s because when it comes to things then we can identify very nicely as thecontroller and enjoyer, because the brick doesn’t give us lip, we picked it up wrong,dropped it, broke off a corner, it doesn’t not talk to us for three days. So thereforethen we go on in our ignorance, and only if we think, well, that was stupid, then we’llslowly, because we want the brick to look nice, so we won’t drop it. But it’s all about
us, it’s not really about the brick. But with people if you want relationships, the otherperson has to be fully part of that equation.So that’s then where this illusion comes in, because we think we are the controllerand enjoyer, and the impersonal aspect is we just will be happy by doing nothing.Means the platform of atma-rama is you are doing nothing. You are just experiencingbliss. But there is nothing going on. So that’s ok, Krsna can do that, the masculineelement can do that, they are independent, they don’t actually require themanifestation and interaction with the feminine for their existence. So Krsna can justexist and be happy. But to increase that pleasure He expands His creation, expandsHis energy and interacts with it.So we have this illusion that I am going to be self-sufficient and self-enjoying, butat the same time, that’s being accomplished through the other living entitiesinteracting with me. But that doesn’t exist in the creation. Even the concept, ourconcept of how to be God is completely bogus. That I am not going to take part reallynicely and I am going to be all happy from it.So we are having a mix, we don’t understand between the atma-rama and theelement of rasa. Rasa means interaction with both parties. Atma-rama means there isno interaction with another party because there is no other party. So we mix these,and this actually makes everything not work very nicely at all.So then we think, ok, I am interacting that’s the bogus part, therefore I won’tinteract. This gives rise to the impersonal. Because the atma-rama that’s theimpersonal position for the living entity. Because the living entity isn’t masculine, sothere is no such thing. The living entity being creation or what is created then isfeminine, it’s dependent upon the masculine and the relationship with. So that meansthe feminine has to be connected with the masculine. That means the connection isthe identity. So when we think I am servant of Krsna, then we are actually connectedwith the masculine. If we think I am the enjoyer we are not connected, we falselyproduce our own masculine connection. Us as the feminine energy is connecting toourself as the masculine controller and enjoyer of the energy, and we think that weare safe in this situation, when we are not.Because everything that we deal with and interact with that we claim we are thelord of is actually interacting with someone else. The material energy is notinteracting with us, it’s interacting with Krsna. We just happen to be there, and weenjoy and suffer.Like you have the television screen and on the screen there is guys playing footie,and they are kicking the ball around and doing things and making goals and doingstupid stuff and they are interacting with each other, they have absolutely nothing todo with us. But we are sitting there on a coach with our tinnies and all this and that,and we are sitting there and yeah, yeah, oh that’s stupid, oh this, then we areenjoying, suffering and everything so much, and we are thinking we are actuallydoing, hey, do this, kick it. But it’s nothing to do with us.
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