No, it’s not that one. It’s this next one. Ok, so that’s the simple point, thechanting always goes on. So it can be done any time, even in sleeping. When you aresleeping and you are worried about something and anxiety is going through yourmind all through the night, so chanting can also do the same thing. So here is thatthing.So that chanting that’s the essential point. Now to engage the conditioned naturethen we deal in all these other forms, these external forms. Here is another quote,this is Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, Brahmana and Vaisnava.Devotee (1): <strong>Maharaja</strong>, which page?<strong>Maharaja</strong>: I think it’s 15 of the introduction.If varnasrama and other fruitive activities enjoined in the sastras becomeprominent in one’s life then one cannot become kincana, or fully dependent upon theLord. Rather these activities provoke offences against the chanting of the holy namesin the form of conceptions of I and mine. For a person who is fully surrendered toKrsna becomes proud of following varnasrama principles then it must be consideredhe has become most unfortunate. Due to the influence of association with women thewhole material world is daily advancing in adversion to Hari.So we can see here, this form is very important, but at the same time, if youidentify with the form you got a problem. The boy is giving a gift to the girl. So it’sthe gift that is the medium for exchange. Now if he identifies I am the gift, thenwhat’s going to happen? Where is the interaction going to happen? Because he isidentifying as the gift.So how do you express anything except through a medium, you have to uselanguage of some variety, either spoken, or abhinaya from the facial features andother physical features of how movement. Some field has to be there, somethingthrough which it’s expressed. But the important thing is what you are expressing.So then in the sadhana we practice the performance of these activities. Theseactivities are performed. And we practice how this form should be done until we getthe form right. But when we get the form right if we identify with it, you have made amistake. You are talking to somebody if you think I am this language, it’s going to bea problem. Because how does that language interact with the other person? You areinteracting through the medium of language.So the varnasrama is a medium for which you show your appreciation for Krsnathrough serving Him, engaging body, mind, and words in His activities. But if youbecome those identities and activities how is that relating to Krsna? Then it’s not yourelating to Krsna.So this is the thing, how the mind tricks. This is what the mind does, on thespiritual platform then the spiritual form and all those things are non-different fromits transcendental desire. But in the material world then the activities and things thatgo on here are non-different from our material.
So what happens is here in engaging, you want to engage in an activity, so thereis going to be a field in which this activity is present. Then those elements within thatfield one will contemplate, because you have to understand what are all theelements, how is their relationship, what is going to actually get done what it is thatyou want to do in this field, and you’ll have your natural attractions to what elementsyou want to use in this field. So this way the mind enters the field and those thingsthat are important within the field to you for accomplishing your results, that entersthe mind. So this is material consciousness. Very simple.So now what happens do you identify with that. Basically what you do is becomedead matter. In effect you are as good as dead matter. That’s the difficulty. Becausewe identify with it. So here he is making the point that this gopé-bhartuù padakamalayor,that you are using this but you are not identifying with it. And as soon asyou identify I am servant of Krsna, you are liberated, you are not on the materialplatform. It’s actually that simple, that easy.So the idea is one is very careful to perform one’s duties very nicely, know exactlywhat is my position in the varnasrama, what is my particular duties, how toparticularly effect them. I am a manager, how to manage nicely. I am a preacher,how to preach nicely. How to do whatever I am doing very nicely for Krsna, becausewhy? The result is for Krsna.But now if we identify with that whole process that this is us, then it is not usserving Krsna, it’s that dead matter. And the dead matter already is serving Krsna,because as we discussed before, it’s already Laksmi, and she is already doing herservice to Krsna. But you don’t get any credit for that. She is doing her service. Butyou are not technically doing yours. Externally yes, but technically no. And justbecause you reject varnasrama, saying it’s external, like Lord Caitanya says, doesn’tmake any difference, doesn’t make you more internal. Internal is the mood in whichyou perform the external activities. Unless, of course, it’s Satya-yuga, then you justsit down in meditation and do that for 60000 years, and then after that time then youcan get some credit. But if that’s not the case, if you don’t have 60000 years, orsometimes Bhagavatam says 10000, some did it in 10000. I think, Kardama was10000 or 60000? I can’t remember. Some of them they were 10000, some of themwere 60000. So you don’t have 10000 years, ok, we work on the quicker thing here,we got less time. If you don’t have that it’s not going to work.So that means then one has to be able to perform an activity. So one has to becareful, the activity and the mentality go together. Basically you check, any difficultyyou have in any relationship anywhere that there is a problem it’s because you arenot combining these two. You are performing the activity, the mood is wrong. Or themood is right, the activity is wrong. It’s that simple. If it’s going to break down yourrelationships with Godhead, why wouldn’t it break it down with everybody else? Theyare His parts and parcels, they will also have similar, in small amounts, the same kindof desires and ways of dealing. So if it doesn’t work with establishing a relationship,
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