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one must voluntarily control oneself to actually be a better controller and enjoyer. Sotherefore one agrees to be controlled, so you are in the proper form of Krsnaconsciousness though you are not necessarily Krsna conscious. Because when youadd Krsna consciousness to it, that’s your daivi-varnasrama, which technically if it’sdone properly is Pancaratra. Then that naturally then gives rise, by purification, tothe spiritual, the Bhagavata.Because the Vedic its actual purpose is to bring one back in line with the Lord andfree one from material consciousness. Bhagavata it’s not a matter of freeing frommaterial consciousness, there isn’t any. Pancaratrika technically there is, but it’sbeing so absorbed in the Lord’s service that it doesn’t really feature. As long as youfollow the rules and absorb yourself in the process, there basically is no mundane.But Vedic is taking mundane as very much a reality. If you are absorbed in thepreaching, or in some variety of hearing and chanting, or in the deity worship orthings connected with the deity in the temple, and you are completely satisfied, noother desires, then between the Bhagavata and the Pancaratrika everything is takencare of. You don’t have to worry. One doesn’t need to go further, because all theessential.Means Vedic is the reflection of the natural form of Bhagavata in the spiritualworld. In the mirror it’s the reflection, it’s the cultural reflection. And the essentialpoints of the Bhagavata have been pulled out as the Pancaratra. Pancaratra is Vedicrules that are either directly or supportive of worshiping Visnu. And if it’s broaderthan that, then that’s the rest of it, that’s what we call the Vedic culture. So itspurpose is the same, but it’s just a matter of these stages. So the Vedic can bringone to the liberated platform and take one in the direction of the Supreme Lord,because to get liberated means you have to be going towards the Lord. ThePancaratra will focus specifically on the Lord. And then the Bhagavata will developthat natural spontaneous love.Devotee (4): When we follow these nice processes of pure devotional service, doesit mean that we don’t want to listen to the mind any more.Maharaja: We don’t want to listen to the mind.Devotee (4): You don’t have time.Maharaja: You don’t have time.Devotee (4): You can’t engage in something else.Maharaja: That’s there, but the problem is, if you can do that, that is great, andthat is what we are trying to do, that’s the second recommendation. The firstrecommendation is pure unalloyed devotional service starting this nanosecond. If thatdoesn’t work, then you take up what you just said. If that doesn’t work, then youstart with the Vedic process. This is what Krsna says.So the reality is, means it’s like this, do you need to be married to chant HareKrsna? No. Do you need to be married to worship the deity? No. So people need to