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why would it work with anybody else? So all of the problems spiritual and materialcome from this. One can’t combine.Now if you combine them nicely, then it will work on the material platform. Theproblem is you’ll stay here, you won’t go back to Godhead. So one has to be able toseparate that I am working these things nicely, but I don’t identify with them.Because what happens is the mind identifies with them, that what creates mundaneconsciousness.Devotee (2): The analysis of the point of liberation, Prabhupada brings out on gopibhartuhon verse, 24 years, and also taking from what you have expanded yesterday.So in this position, at least I myself… as a tatastha jiva… if the jiva becomes liberatedis not any longer tatastha. Can you…?Maharaja: No, the tatastha is the position in that. Because in the liberated state oneis still, that is actually the pure state of tatastha.Devotee (2): Actually the question was it’s actually about if you could elaborate,because the stages of liberation are so diverse from the impersonal to where it’sactually bhakti the pure svarupa. So in this side, not just already in the spiritual theysay already contemplation of the svarupa. But here in this side if there is no 24 hourmeditation on consciousness even in the sleeping stage, therefore if I am as spiritualspark, Brahman, I will be relating in an impersonal way according to the proportionthat I am conscious one hour, two hours, three, four hours. So the analysis alwaysfrom this side. What is the interrelation actually the mind and the intellect, because Isometimes skip in my focusing, the mind tricks me and I forget. So in essence if youcan elaborate about where faith arises…?Maharaja: Faith, where faith arises in that, ok.So the question basically is that are discussing here Prabhupada is saying that by,our method liberation is establishing ourself as a servant of Krsna, the identity isservant of Krsna. Because liberation or conditioning is actually a state of existence.So that means the state of existence is defined in sambandha-jnana. So if yoursambandha-jnana is mundane, your existence is mundane. If the sambandha-jnanais spiritual, your existence is spiritual. So if you identify as servant of Krsna, you arenot in the material sphere. If you identify in any way with the material, you are in thematerial sphere.So then the question comes up, as a conditioned living entity, we are not talkingabout once we get to the liberated state, but as a conditioned living entity, then whenwe are not actually Krsna conscious, when those moments that we are not identifyingas Krsna’s servant, are we dealing therefore, it will appear therefore we are dealingwith Krsna from the impersonal platform. So how to rectify that, or how to move thatforward?The important element here then is the definition of devotional service as given byBaladeva Vidya-bhusana. Whatever is in connection to Krsna consciousness then iscounted as Krsna consciousness. So the process of sadhana-bhakti, even though