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ice I would think <strong>the</strong> square shaftwould keep <strong>the</strong> cutting angle moreconsistent.HenryFred’s Response: I don’t own<strong>the</strong> Ci0 tool as yet; however, whileat <strong>the</strong> Desert Woodturning Rounupin Mesa Arizona in February, I purchased<strong>the</strong> Ci1 and Ci2 tools. I find<strong>the</strong>m very useful for rough turningand expect that <strong>the</strong>y would be easyfor a beginner to learn to use. I use<strong>the</strong> Ci1 for a lot <strong>of</strong> roughing work.I am pr<strong>of</strong>icient with all <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>rturning tools, even <strong>the</strong> skew, as I’vebeen turning for 21 years and haveturned virtually all sorts <strong>of</strong> things.I did get to see <strong>the</strong> Ci0 tool work at<strong>the</strong> Utah Woodturning <strong>Symposium</strong>in <strong>the</strong> hands on/trade show area.When I first got <strong>the</strong> Ci1, I turneda bowl with it from start to finish,except that for <strong>the</strong> final cut inside,I did use a bowl gouge. I tried it onspindle work and found that it woulddo most spindle cuts except coves. Ialso turned a goblet with it at 3000rpm and it cut quite smooth at thatspeed. I had to use an Eliminatortool to turn <strong>the</strong> inside bottom <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>goblet bowl. Here is where <strong>the</strong> Ci0would have come in handy.Whe<strong>the</strong>r you are an experiencedturner or a beginner, I believe<strong>the</strong>se tools are worth <strong>the</strong> money.<strong>The</strong>y eliminate <strong>the</strong> need for sharpening<strong>of</strong>ten and are easy to use. <strong>The</strong>ylook like scrapers, but that is where<strong>the</strong> difference ends. <strong>The</strong>y do not cutlike a scraper.I agree with o<strong>the</strong>rs, joining aclub if possible and getting someregular hands on woodturning trainingusing <strong>the</strong> conventional tools isvery good advise. However, <strong>the</strong>senew carbide tools are a good buyand will allow you to do things thatyou may currently be having troubledoing.Fred HolderLyle’s Response: You haveasked about <strong>the</strong> newest, hottest fadI have seen in a long time in <strong>the</strong>turning world. <strong>The</strong>se Easy Roughertools are selling like hot cakes. I seeyou call it an easy finisher. That itis not, Ill try to explain. I agree withmost <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> points Fred presents.Look at Fred’s process. He roughedout <strong>the</strong> form and did <strong>the</strong> finish cutswith more efficient tools. For a beginner<strong>the</strong> easy rougher might be agood way to get your feet wet. ButI agree with your assumption thatyou will soon grow out <strong>of</strong> it whenyou learn to use <strong>the</strong> bowl gougeand spindle gouge. I disagree withFred’s assertion that it “does not cutlike a scraper”. It is a scraper and itcuts as a scraper. It is not designedto have bevel support and it hasno slicing/sheering action that <strong>the</strong>gouges do. So <strong>the</strong>y are a carbidescraper. Yes, that has <strong>the</strong> advantage<strong>of</strong> not needing to sharpen for a longwhile. But what happens whenit gets dull?? Do beginners have<strong>the</strong> tools or expertise to sharpencarbide?? Or you have to buy newtips when dull?? I want to make itperfectly clear <strong>the</strong>se tools are differenttechnology <strong>the</strong>n Hunter orEliminator tools. <strong>The</strong> Easy Rougheruses <strong>the</strong> old carbide cutters that havebeen used in <strong>the</strong> metal working industryfor decades. <strong>The</strong> old carbideis not as sharp as <strong>the</strong> new nanograincarbide in <strong>the</strong> Hunter/Eliminatortools. So <strong>the</strong> bottom line is <strong>the</strong> EasyRougher is a carbide scraper thateven new, does not get as sharp asHSS. <strong>The</strong> Hunter/Eliminator toolsused correctly can be used in a sheering/slicingmode with bevel supportand leave an unbelievable surfacebehind that needs little sanding. SeeJohn Lucas video clip on YouTubefor an example <strong>of</strong> its use in a bowlwww.hunterwoodturningtool.com/tutorials. I use <strong>the</strong> same new Huntercarbide in my boring bar system forhollow forms. <strong>The</strong> Easy Roughertool was designed to be a roughingout tool and does a good job at that.But people are leaping ahead andusing it as a finish tool. It will havesignificant end grain tear out. Its adull scraper. I dont want to have tosand all that damage. I’d ra<strong>the</strong>r beturning than sanding. My advice toa beginner is to put <strong>the</strong> $100.00 intoa basic turning class or get a clubmember to mentor you and learnto use <strong>the</strong> gouges. I can rough outwith a bowl gouge and do finishingcuts that I start sanding with 320 gritsandpaper.Lyle JamiesonThread ChasersQuestion: I was researchingcutting threads in wood on <strong>the</strong> internetand came across your nameat <strong>the</strong> bottom <strong>of</strong> this website.http://www.jamesriser.com/Machinery/chasers/making_chasers.htmlIt refers to you for a “well explained”technique for using threadchasers. Any and all help in this isappreciated.John HeavillFred’s Response: My book,“Making Screw Threads in Wood”,was published in 2001 by GMCPublications in England. I keep afew copies on hand that I sell for$28.00 plus $5.00 shipping andhandling. <strong>The</strong> book covers all techniquesfor making screw threads in[Continued on Page 34.]More Woodturning August <strong>2009</strong> Page 19

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