<strong>Gerald</strong> W. <strong>Smith</strong> 2 34I want to put into the record this matter of that tax. As againA%indi atedearlier, in this discourse, the original Phster Plan proposed that tcharge back be taken care by the County Superintendent of Schools byholding or diverting as mch of the state appofiiomnt to that pschool district as was necessary to meet the c1ah-s of the c m t ycolleges. You will also recall that there was objection to that pmprosaland that I was one of the principal objectors and perhaps became the onewho spoke most fkquently to that. We did not get that provision out ofthe proposal until the amendment stage. This was one of the thims thatoccwred in the re-writing of the Act, to which I referred. The Board ofHi&er Fducation, Dr. Browne, Dr. Glenny, never accepted the objectionsthat we eve and continued to support; their point of view, that this shouldbe done by havlng the County Superintendent as an adfninistrative agent todivert that money. In a hearing before the joint comittee or joint educationcomittees of the House and Senate, I spoke to this subject. Themembers of those comfittees concurred in the point of view which we werepresenting, namely, that that should not be diverted f*rom that. Whereuponthe assigmnt cam to me to write (chuckle) an amendment to the Act thatwould Wte that. And, so, accept- the principle it seemed had alreadybeen generally speed upon, that we would use the local district, as theadministrative unit to handle that. We did write an amendment which proddedthat the student would give a statement of intent to the localdistrict and that the charge back would go to the local district.There was one little incident that I would like to put in here because Itcould probably fit, as well as any. In writing the amendment we decided,and I guess maybe I could probably say, several of us did. I don't rememberwho all of us were on that, I'm sure we conferred with Wayne Stone- ofthe IEA and I conferred with Dr. Glem and others. Anyway, the amendmentthat we wrote proposed that the local district be authorized to levy a taxabove and beyond any other taxes they levied sufficient to pmvLde themney for the tuition. And that was the way our amendment went In. Itdeveloped that there were some objections to that larqpage, the IllinoisTaxpayers Federation, for example, objected to unlimited taxing power, asa basic policy they usually supported specifics. Representativeof the School Problems Canmission supported rry contention that tnot an unlimited tax, that the language specified that it was tcient to pay and that the money could be used for no other pwrpthere was no advantage in leveling extra tax. However, Senator Dcame to us one day and said, ''We want thPs Act to pass we wantwith possibly no objection, Would you -be ~2llLng to7- put in a 1rate in order to get the total support without conside~able flack wregard to that?"As far as I was concerned, the legislative principle is: when youf wonthe point, you are willing to concede on the specifics. We'd won o$ pointwith regard to the general principle .,. and ... so, yes, we agreed. SwatorDavis and I, stand- in the aisle of the Senate- one evexhg, on tMspoint were discussing if we were going to make it a specific figure, howmuch should it be. And so right out of the thin air, sorrmhere out of thechandelier (chuckle) In the Senate ch&r&r$, somewhere, we decided 'ahatfor the first two years we didn't know what It was go- to cost but weI
<strong>Gerald</strong> W.Smlth23Fjbut we would say a tax not to exceed 34 on a hundred dollars assesseevaluation. There was no scientific base for that figure..,no objecbase for tW figure. We put the 34 in there ape@% that it oughtget us along for two years. And... so..the figre was changed to 34.One of the people who was opposed to the.statement, "a taxpay", was Mr. Maurice Scott, the Fxecutive Director for the IllinoisTaxpayers Federation, a very able nan and a supporter of the bill. qetween1965 and 1967 this was the provision that was in the Act. I want tot adda little human interest item. By 1967 data were available, of course, fora rnore objective basis on which to assip a figure and it was obvious by1967 that the 34 rate was inadequate in many parts of the atate md 80 theIllinois Corrnraxnity College Board, as a paYct of its rec~lgnendations to theGeneral Assembly 1967 reccarnzended that that of the Act, be amended.Trying to arrive at a f i v and keeping in mind the origlml objecttonto our language which had been seen as open-ended, the proposed amendmentstLpulated that the tax that might be levied should be at a rate not toexceed 216 on a hundred dollars assessed evaluation because by that timewe had at least one school district 3.n Tllfnois, namely Riverside-Ehmokfield,that needed that mch to pay their out-of-district tuition. And, we wantedthe rate to be high enough to covey the most expensive place in the State.And, so, the amendment was put in at that level. The amendtnent was introducedand a day or two after it was introduced I had a telephone call fk.mMaurice Scott, in office, saying that he was quite concerned about, inone amendment, increasing that authorized rate 34 to 214. I explained tohim the basis on which it had been done and his questlon to me was, "Wouldyou object if we went in and offered an amendment to your proposal thatwould read a "tax sufficient to pay (chuckle)...the cost ." Mch, interestinglyenough, had been the original language that we had introduced,which we changed to satism Mamice Scott and others, and now it wasMaurice Scott askkg m if I would agee to tbat language. That languagewas put in then in 1967 and has remained there ever since.I n~Lght also say another thing about the charge back. The chargefigure Fn the bill was Initially an authorization allowed to thefor a three yeas. period. In 1965 it was stipulated that thatauthority to the districts through 1968. In other words, itthat the General Assembly and the people who were counseling theAssdly intended that the push should be for theJunior College mas sometime in the distant f'uture, and so they p#terminal periods on that type of legislation.IA@n, I rd@t editorialize here by saying that in the 1969was another extension and then subsequently anotheralready observed at the mmnt, the terminal year iswhat happens to that r e s to be sen.Another topic to which I want to speak with regan3 to the Act was dhemtter of the Open Door Admissions policy. Or, so to speak, the aWssionspolicy of the C m t y College. In the literature and in the discussionsthe term "Open Door1', as you OW, has been widely used for many, manyyears. The Illinois system as set forth in the Act not only was to provide1"
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