<strong>Gerald</strong> W. Mth 2 40try to locate somebody who would cone on an interim basis, a tempoperson.Tney discussed that matter that afternoon. I was not presentat that meeting and so I do not lolow just what the nature of the discussionwas, nor how mu^, people were discussed. What I do how is thatin the eve* of Labor Day as I was working out on lawn, a phone callcame f'rm Dr. Bme.Q. Where were you living at that time7A. I was living in Sprhgfield because I was serving as Executive Directorfor the adrr;inlstrators and as Admlnistratlve Relations Director for theIE;A, which included the Junior College Association.Q. I knew that Gerry, but I wanted to get it into the record again.A. And...the nature of Dr. Browne1s .~nye:mk%@n- was essentially vdhatI've Just sald. They had to have somebody right now...and the questS?onwas, would I be willing to serve them as an interim person on a tempararybask, bdicating to me that they were not looking for a permanent indivi-dual; they would decide on that at a later th~. I explained to Dr. Brawnethat, yes, I would probably be Interested but I was not a f'ree agent. Iwas employed by the Illinois Association of School Administrators and theIllinois Education Association; consequently the matter whether I could bed e available had to be related to them. So that eve- he called theExecutive Secretasy of the Illinois Education Association, Wayne Stoneking,and discussed it with him. Upon arrival at work the next mrning Waynesaid, "We have samething to talk aboutfr (chuckle, chuckle). Of course,then we also had to bring bto the conversation the pmsldent of theschool administrators whose Executive Director I was. The result was that,I t m , by Wednesday of that week the officers of both associations hadbeen contacted and they agreed that this was a very important piece ofbusiness that was being taken care of In the Sltate, one which they had.supported actively and they felt, therefore, that we ought to make thataccomdat ion.By Wednesday or Thursday I had responded to Dr. Browne by indicating thatI would be interested and that I thought we could establish a workabiearrangement within our own office. It had been agreed that if I did thisRoy Baker who was working with me in that office would take over muc$ ofmy responsibilities but I would retain some because I would go on pqttimeand temporarily.The Board at its meet- on Monday recessed until Friday. On F"ridwlSeptember 10, they met in Fnicago . At that meeting. . . I l rn going to tb toshow you how busy they were, but first of all here's the agendacovered on December 10. They selected Maurice Mitchell to serveChairman of the Board. They designated Newton Minm (who was anto draft a tentative list of rmles by which the Board would operate.put John Cox and Mrs. Kahn on the matter of what to do withthey approved the petition f'rom DuPage College. That approval was jwt aninitial step. At any rate they did approve it and sent it on to the,Boardof Higher Education for their review. They received petitions fkmn $Lack
<strong>Gerald</strong> W. <strong>Smith</strong> 241Hawk Cammity College to be reorganized as a Class I, (it was a clash 11);they had a petition hmn Ottawa with regard to the organization of a 61strict;they met with a camittee -an Chicago, discussing the statusepfthe Chicago Junior College District; and then on the matter of the Ex cutiveSecretary they vatea t ;~ k&re m, <strong>Gerald</strong> <strong>Smith</strong>, and appoinkdFrank Fowle and Dr. B m e as a comdittee to meet with me and to wor4 outthe arrangements of my employment, with the power to act.Q. Then you were not present durFng this meeting? IIA. I did not attend either the Sept-er 6th or Septder 10th meetdngs.The meting on the 10th was a recessed continuation of the fbst one,So you see howmch business was beforce thts new pup of peqle wheq theymet. The following week, on Tuesday, I believe, Mr. Fawle and Dr. B~mecame to Springfield and they did meet with me and we worked out the ternof my employment, which were as follows: I was to give seventy-five percent of time to the office of the E~ecutive Secretary to the Bod.They had in mlnd some other designation, but I'd had little t3t-e to thinkabout it during the week and suggested to them that I did not believe Iwould be interested in trying to carry out the responsibilities that weregoing to be necessary with any designation less than that stipulated inthe Act. Mr. Fowle and Dr. Browne agreed without much wgurnent that thatwas a good point, so I was to come on as the Executive Secretary, to giveseventy-five percent of my tW.My relationship back with my old job was that the twenty-ftve per c& Iwas to use there I was going to continue to perform as ExecutTve Directorfor the Administrators and let Roy Baker take over all the other roles.I might say right here that s exactly what I did. This arrangement, by theway was to continue until June 30th, 1966. 1 was to come on with them inthis role of Executive Secretary. They were planning at that time to go ona search for a f'ull-time Executive Secretary ... t h w in terms of a manwhose credentials were different f'rom mine. For example, they want& anindividual wlth an emed doctorate, which I dTd not hold. They wqted aw-son ~5th a national reputation In the junior college field to he$d upthis new state system, andl I think they we= probably th- of aipersonwho had done more work at the national level in junior college field. Atany rate, these were the characteristics, so the terms of our agreerpentwere that I was to come on with them as has been stated through JunI30thand if, during the course of the year they did flnd and, bring on si e a newExecutive Secretary, I was to serve as his deputy until June 30th, t whichtime I was to leave them and come back to role with the Illinois( EHucationAssociation; those were the general terms of ny employment with them.IThe Board met on September 17 which was a week following the 10th..Chicago and that then was first meting with the state bomd. Obf"bythe wa-y, the question was, When do I be&?" . Mr, Fowler and D m _3roynesaid that Tuesday afternoon, "As far as we are concerned you haveWe did agree that for the record, since the state payroll beganand the first of the month, and since this was like the 14th, I w@d officiallygo to work for them on the 16th, which was Thursday.
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