Q. By staff rraembers do you include yourself?A. The ~Ucy that we adopt& in accordance with that law ms thatsecretarial persome1 d d be enrployed strictly under the universitcivil servlce program, but that the professional staff initially, atleast, would be hi~d without strlct adheranee to the c5vil servlce program,as was authorized in the law.I believe that covers the initial programs and I would like to stop hereand address ourselves for a little bit to sane of the matters that theBoard had to deal with in the perfomnance of its work In relation to allthese things that had already been brought before us. Because there metwo or three things that me very important and particularly, when youtake ate account that for the First year, I would say that 75% or moreof our energy and time had to be in response to the tremendous move forthe organization and reorganization of the districts.Q. Before I shut this thing off and you change the subgect, I just wantto add that the way you have presented these early meetlngs and theseearly beginnings in very human terms, Gerry, it is just a delightful experienceand since I know a number of the persons involved, I can actuallysit here and sense some of the exciteraent, yes, excitement, 1 guess, isthe word that they must have experienced.A. Havhg spoken to the subject of getting underway axrd-with an ilWstrationaf7&e agenda for the meeting of October 1st; for the purpose ofillustrating that the Board had. no time to get ready and that; they werein f'ull swhg mdiately, I would like now to list some of the principalitems of business that required the attention of the Board in the fPrstfew months of its operation, and then come back later on and speak tosome of them at least. I have already said enough to make it very clear,that the Board was faced inmediately with the matter of the organizationand reorganization of a new state system of community colleges under theAct and that that was a major item of business on the first day they met.I may have already said on tape that that was for at least another yearand a half to take a major part of the time and. attention of the St@teBoaYd for the district organization and reorganization, But; the Act alsoprovided that the State Board was to provide state wide plannlng foyc-ty colleges as institutions of higher education, and to coor@lnatethe program services and activities of all camunity colleges in th Stateso as to encourage and establish a system of locally initiated and kis-tered comprehensive comity colleges. That was listed in the fir t dutyof the State Board.1Q. What you just said Is actually a reading of a section of the Act?A. I Just quoted this f'mm the Act. And. so agah for the first fewmonths this matter of plannhg, of study, of coordination, and so forbh,were matters that were covered in one way or another on every agenda ofthe Board meet-, so that we got our pattern for this organizatian.
<strong>Gerald</strong> W. <strong>Smith</strong> 249I was looking in the flles the other day and noticed that sometimethe spring of 1966, about six months after we met, we published our 'ffirst document entitled, lPolicies, Standards and Criteria1, which dealtwlth the buslness of the Board itself and Its relationship to theccx-mimity colleges. You will note In there that the conwnxnlty collegesunder the Act, had now cane under the state higher education system.This meant, therefore, mdiately and for the next few months the Boardand its staff had to learn how to relate to the Board of Hf&er Educationin the same way that the Wersities me dolng it. And, by the ww,under the pmisions of' the Board of Higher Education Act, the chamof each of the state systems is a member of that Board. So, PIP. FovJLelmmedlately began to serve as a member of the Board of Higher Educationand I began to meet regularly wlth the Board of Higher Education as didthe presidents of universities and the executfve officer of the StateCollege BD-, which was what we had at the tflme.I already noted that accounting had been a problem with the old sys~emand so we addressed ourselves very qulcMy to the drafiing of a uniformaccounting system. It took a long time to work that out but we dld it,Again, in cooperation with the ccmmity colleges we created a wormcommittee of the business offices of the juniow, colleges across thestate to mke recarnnendations with re@ to that systm.Q. One thing I'm curious about, 4n this connection, Gerry. Was this anawareness at that tlme when these accmtlng procedusres were being developed,that mybe there were s m significant differences in kind between thecodty colleges and the universities? The universities were the oneswho had had the experience wlth this kind of thing and, therefore, thepatterns and standards and criteria and methods developed by the universities,I'm sure were adopted pmbably. Now what effects... .was therean awareness of the effects? ..A. Yes, there was an amreness of effects, but you must remember that wewere unique, we in part patterned after the public school system. Our?procedures for adopting a budget were the same as those in the pubUcschool system and even some of the language that had to deal withand so forth had been pulled into this Act, so it was necessary 3.ning a uniform accounting system or one that would accmcdate t9n our law and the characteristics of our districts which weresimiLar to the public school districts and on the other side re1the hi&er education or university system. So we had to have asystem; we were very aware of the fact that ours was a compositeQ. Yes, well, I wanted to b~ing this lyl here because this, whatI say, the tension that has resulted, that is still very much pthe mhds...yes, of the people who have to make decisions about tCbmmmity Gollege Board or the c-ty colleges and the univethe tensLon Is often very great sirrrply because your trying to jentirely different ~imals ...;by-the sm-standard of beauty.
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