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<strong>paul</strong> <strong>simon</strong> – 1984 <strong>playboy</strong> <strong>interview</strong> small black beetles: the overkill<br />

Woody Allen. I admire his tenaciousness, his talent, his<br />

integrity. I guess what bothers me about saying that is<br />

that he's so many people's hero. If I went a step further,<br />

I would say John Cheever. His work really touched me. And<br />

he seemed to have a very good heart, to have overcome<br />

enormous obstacles and achieved success quite late in<br />

life. He also wrote about a world that he made me feel I<br />

belonged to, even though it had nothing to do with<br />

me. That's a great achievement for an artist. I'd say the same<br />

about John Updike and Saul Bellow.<br />

Playboy: Who in the pop-music world is pursuing his own<br />

artistic vision?<br />

Simon: Well I'd say Bruce Springsteen. When I first heard<br />

Bruce, I thought, Well, he's like Dylan and Van Morrison. but<br />

somehow, he's grown. Somehow, he's made those south<br />

Jersey highways, the cars, into an archetypal, almost mythic<br />

American form of expression. He's found a vocabulary to<br />

talk about what's on his mind and in his heart. He's found<br />

his people. I don't think that Springsteen himself rides<br />

along on highways with a girl wondering where to go.<br />

But a part of him does, and always will, and so he's able to<br />

express himself very clearly in that vocabulary.<br />

Playboy: Are there any others you'd put in Springsteen's<br />

category?<br />

Simon: Yeah, Bob Seeger is able to express something<br />

about the Midwest, to put it into his music and make<br />

someone who doesn't come from there understand and be<br />

attractive to foreigners. To speak on a mythic level. Not<br />

terribly different from what Sam Shepard does in his play.<br />

Playboy: What about a current singer/songwriter such as<br />

Sting, of The Police?<br />

Simon: Well, I'm just beginning to be aware of him. Until<br />

now, their albums have seemed too smoothed down.<br />

There's a little too much fashion in it for me. Too much<br />

about haircuts. It's distracting to me. Not for what makes<br />

number one, mind you, because haircuts are fairly<br />

important for number one. Actually, I think it was very<br />

unusual about Simon and Garfunkel - their haircuts. We<br />

were never fashionable. We were incredibly popular, but<br />

we were always out of fashion in our hair and physical<br />

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