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Re: Pioneer Laseractive:<br />

I never compared this to <strong>CED</strong>, but I have 2 of Pioneer's "Zoom"<br />

laserdiscs, which are sent out periodically to retailers (got them from a<br />

VideoConcepts store when they were closing them all) One is almost<br />

entirely a demonstration of Laseractive and one can't help feeling sorry<br />

for the guy talking about all the research and commitment Pioneer was<br />

putting into it. I never saw it promoted to the public very well, but<br />

they talk about it here like it might be "the next big thing." The only<br />

Laseractive disc I have is "3-D Museum" which I also have LCD shutter<br />

glasses that work with it. I'd like to get some game discs if they ever<br />

show up cheap enough; that's what I think doomed this system as well as<br />

the laserdisc-based arcade video games in 1983-84- since the main parts<br />

are prerecorded, there's really only one way a game can go since you're<br />

playing with the same footage every time, and that gets old really fast.<br />

The system was a rip-off too, the player itself cost about as much as a<br />

really good LD player only it didn't have auto-reverse, and you couldn't<br />

play any games with it unless you paid another few hundred bucks for the<br />

"packs" (which both could've been built into the machine making for a<br />

really good unit- Turbographix and Genesis games!) To top it all off, the<br />

game discs were around $200 each when they first came out!!<br />

Where in history is CD-I (Interactive) going to fall? I recently got a<br />

player at Fry's (formerly Incredible Universe) for $15 (no that's not a<br />

typo!) I'd never expect to find one that cheap even at a thrift store!<br />

The manual it comes with starts out with "You've just purchased one of<br />

the best-supported, best-backed products available today, which will<br />

provide you with many years of enjoyment." This was a great example of a<br />

product in search of an identity- was it a game system, cheap home<br />

computer, educational device, or what??? Looking forward to finding some<br />

bootleg MPEG movie CD's though, I've heard they have some movies that are<br />

still in theaters available on these things. The only legitimate stuff<br />

I've been able to find is porno, the motion on the 3 discs I have is<br />

strange looking and I can't tell if it's the source material, bad<br />

mastering, or if that's how everything looks on MPEG-1 discs. And yes, I<br />

was watching them for the plot and the acting ;) I also have the Space<br />

Ace game that uses the MPEG card, and it looks pretty good but animated<br />

stuff often holds up better under "digital" situations- noticed a bit of<br />

"weave" and "jump" in the film though, which I thought would get lost in<br />

a sea of blocks so that impressed me. I saw "Star Trek" playing in a<br />

store a long time ago and it looked pretty bad, I don't have any of the<br />

more 'major' films Philips put out that would probably better show how<br />

good or bad the overall quality is.<br />

With laserdisc having already been<br />

out, and now DVD, this format has pretty much always been pointless, its<br />

only advantage apparently being that they're incredibly cheap to make,<br />

which accounts for the majority of discs to be either bootlegs and/or porn.<br />

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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:55:41 -0600

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