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25 marti - 7 aprili 2011literaturuli gazeTiinterviu13mkiTxvelialeqsandre kvitaSvili:<strong>`me</strong> ufro prozis moyvaruli var...~dRes saqarTveloSi ganaTlebisa <strong>da</strong> wignierebis <strong>da</strong>bal maCvenebelze xSirad laparakoben. am Temas-Tan <strong>da</strong>kavSirebiT sxva<strong>da</strong>sxva socialuri kvlevis safuZvelze arsebuli monacemebis an ze<strong>da</strong>pirulitelegamokiTxvebis mixedviT Tu vimsjelebT, mZime suraTi ixateba. Tumca, wignismoyvaruli a<strong>da</strong>mianebiZnelad eTanxmebian xolme amgvar statistikas. am mxriv, vfiqrob, sagulisxmo <strong>da</strong> sainteresoa ivanejavaxiSvilis Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis reqt<strong>ori</strong>s, aleqsandre kvitaSvilis mosazrebac:`faqtia, rom Tanamedrove a<strong>da</strong>miani Tavisufal dros wigns naklebad uTmobs, xSirad mas kompiuterTanTu teleekranTan jdoma urCevnia. es Cveulebrivi movlenaa. mas mere rac wigni arsebobs, mis mimarTinteresi xan izrdeba, xanac iklebs, sazogadoeba Sordeba <strong>da</strong> ubrundeba literaturas. es wriulmoZraobas hgavs. safuZveli ar maqvs, vivaraudo, rom qarTveli a<strong>da</strong>miani dRes cotas kiTxulobs. magramTuki asea, garkveuli drois Semdeg is aucileblad miubrundeba wigns. kiTxva mxolod interesis<strong>da</strong>kmayofileba xom ar aris, is sakuTari azris gadmocemis saukeTeso maswavlebelia~...Cveni rubrikis _ `mkiTxveli~ – m<strong>ori</strong>g stumars, baton aleqsandre kvitaSvils universitetSi, missamuSao kabinetSi Sevxvdi..._ cnobili mecnieris, SoTa mesxiasSviliSvili brZandebiT, TqvenimeuRle ki saqarTvelos menSevikurimTavrobis Tavmjdomaris, noe Jor<strong>da</strong>niasSviliSvilia; albaT, Tqvensojaxur arqivSi araerTi sainteresoxelnaweri, werili Tu piradi nivTiinaxeba, biblioTekac Zveli gamocemebiT,iSviaTi wignebiT aris mdi<strong>da</strong>ri.asea?_ mogexsenebaT, noe Jor<strong>da</strong>niasnaTesaoba, misi STamomavlebi parizSicxovroben, aqe<strong>da</strong>n gamomdinare, mispirad arqivTan xeli namdvilad armimiwvdeba. rac Seexeba babuaCems, misibiblioTeka marTlac mdi<strong>da</strong>ri iyosaintereso literaturiT, iSviaTiwignebiT. gar<strong>da</strong> amisa, ojaxSi inaxebo<strong>da</strong>misi Sromebi, xelnawerebi, piradinivTebi... imis gamo, rom es masala<strong>da</strong>cvisa <strong>da</strong> Senaxvis gansakuTrebulpirobebs saWiroeb<strong>da</strong>, SoTa mesxiasarqivis mniSvnelovani nawili xelnawerTaerovnul centrs ga<strong>da</strong>veciT.Tumca saxlSi babuas kuTvnili wignebi<strong>da</strong>nbevri <strong>da</strong>gvrCa, romlis aTvisebasacmisi STamomavlebi vcdilobT._ izrdebodiT garemoSi, sa<strong>da</strong>cwigni Tqveni ojaxis yoveldRiuricxovrebis nawili iyo. xom ar gaixsenebTpirvel STabeWdilebebs,pirvel Sexvedrebs literaturulgmirebTan, wakiTxuliT gancdils..._ maxsovs, Zalian mcire asaki<strong>da</strong>n_ jer kidev aRqmis unaric rom armqon<strong>da</strong> – de<strong>da</strong> mikiTxav<strong>da</strong> wignebs.mogvianebiT, roca kiTxva Tavad <strong>da</strong>viwye,ramdenime wigns erTdrouladvecnobodi. dRemde ase var. miyvarserTi Temi<strong>da</strong>n meoreze ga<strong>da</strong>rTva-gadmorTva.literaturis mimarTyovelTvis Zalian didi interesimqon<strong>da</strong>.sxvaTa S<strong>ori</strong>s, erTi saintereso aRmoCenacgavakeTe: ra wignebic bavSvobaSimogwons, romeli gmiric gitacebs,mozrdil asakSi igive nawarmoebiTu personaJi sul sxva STabeWdilebebsaRZravs. aseTi eqsperimenti Cavatare– Cemi bavSvobis sayvareliwignebi zr<strong>da</strong>srul asakSi xelmeoredga<strong>da</strong>vikiTxe <strong>da</strong> aRmovaCine, rom bevriis nawarmoebi, romelsac guls vervudebdi, Zalian saintereso yofila.xolo wignebi, romelic pataraobisasZalian miyvar<strong>da</strong>, xelaxali wakiTxvisassaSinelebad momeCvena... saerTod,asakTan erTad a<strong>da</strong>mians literaturuligemovneba, interesebi ecvleba. aserom, sruliad gasagebia, ratom xdebasayvareli wignebis ga<strong>da</strong>faseba.vfiqrob, bavSvobaSi `robinzon kruzos"a<strong>da</strong>ptirebul teqsts mxolodimitom vkiTxulobdiT, rom <strong>ori</strong>ginaliswakiTxva mosawyenad gveCvenebo<strong>da</strong>.Tavis droze, didi STabeWdilebamoaxdina jonaTan sviftis `guliverismogzaurobam~. es is nawarmoebia,romlis kiTxviT gamowveuli emociadRemde maxsovs. Tumca, upirvelesad,mainc egziuperis `patara ufliswuls~gavixsenebdi. sul meSino<strong>da</strong>baobabis gverdiT ar aRmovCeniliyavi,an moulodnelad Cveni saxlissiaxloves ar amozrdiliyo. albaT,gaxsovT, rog<strong>ori</strong> baobabebi iyo wignisyvelaze gavrcelebuli gamocemisilustraciebs S<strong>ori</strong>s..._ vfiqrob, `patara ufliswuli~im wignTagania, romelsac mkiTxvelisxva<strong>da</strong>sxva asakSi ubrundeba xolme..._ sxvaTa S<strong>ori</strong>s, zr<strong>da</strong>srul asakSimisi axli<strong>da</strong>n wakiTxva gamiWir<strong>da</strong>. racSeexeba diumas, misi erTguli mkiTxveliviyavi. `sami muSketeri~ <strong>da</strong> `ociwlis Semdeg~ aTjer mainc maqvs ga<strong>da</strong>kiTxuli,Tumca `vikont de braJelons~guli verafriT <strong>da</strong>vude, aRar <strong>da</strong>mainteresa.saerTod, Cvevad maqvs, erTsa <strong>da</strong>imave wigns sxva<strong>da</strong>sxva dros ramdenjermevubrundebi <strong>da</strong> mere Tavi<strong>da</strong>n bolomdevkiTxulob._ ZiriTa<strong>da</strong>d, romeli literaturulimimarTulebis mkiTxveli xarT?_ fantastikis gar<strong>da</strong> yvelafersvkiTxulob. aris xalxi, maT S<strong>ori</strong>s bevriCemi megobaric, romelic giJdebaam Janrze, me ki ra vqna, verafriT Seviyvare._ ramdena<strong>da</strong>c vici, kargad icnobTqarTul sasuliero mwerlobas..._ albaT, gagikvirdebaT, magramTavis droze TiTqmis zepirad vicodi`SuSanikis wameba~, `grigol xanZTeliscxovreba~ <strong>da</strong> hagiografiis sxva nimuSebi.maTi kiTxva Zalian miyvar<strong>da</strong>._ saero literaturas rac Seexeba,qarTveli klasikosebi<strong>da</strong>n vin arisTqveni rCeuli?_ me ufro prozis moyvaruli var,poezias naklebad vkiTxulob. ase rom,Cveni prozaikosebi<strong>da</strong>n – ilia Wav-WavaZiT <strong>da</strong>wyebuli _ yvela avt<strong>ori</strong>Zalian miyvars. CemTvis gansakuTrebiTsaintereso qarTvel klasikosad konstantinegamsaxurdia rCeba.yovelTvis momwon<strong>da</strong> misi Txrobis manera,mxatvruli stili... mas absoluturadgansxvavebuli xelwera aqvs <strong>da</strong>arcerT sxva qarTvel avtors ar hgavs.rogorc giTxariT, prozis mkiTxveliufro var... Tumca erT sainteresoambavs giambobT: <strong>da</strong>axloebiTxuTi-eqvsi wlis win, amerikaSi yofnisas,ojaxTan erTad okeanis sanapirozevisvenebdi, Cemi simamris saxlSi vcxovrobdiT.sakiTxavi araferi mqon<strong>da</strong><strong>da</strong> saxlSi erTaderTi wigni aRmovaCine_ `vefxistyaosani~. skolis Semdeg eswigni xelSi ar mWeria, mas Semdeg kiTxuTmeti weli iyo gasuli. rogorcgaxsovT, am poemas cu<strong>da</strong>d gvaswavlidnen...mokled, <strong>da</strong>viwye kiTxva. sanapirozevijeqi <strong>da</strong> `vefxistyaosani~mqon<strong>da</strong> ga<strong>da</strong>Slili. rusTavelma imdenadgamitaca, rom mTeli Rame ar miZinia,erTi amosunTqviT wavikiTxe. gulwrfeladgetyviT, im asakSi sxvaarcerT nawarmoebs aseTi mZafri STabeWdilebaar mouxdenia! fantastikurinawarmoebia.sxvaTa S<strong>ori</strong>s, TiTqmis igive mox<strong>da</strong>mixeil SoloxovTan mimarTebaSi.udidesi STabeWdileba moaxdina Cemzemisma romanma `wynari doni~. maxsovs.or did tomad gamocemuli nawarmoebigauCereblad wavikiTxe. ara<strong>da</strong>, bavSvobaSi,roca am wignis wakiTxvasufrosebi maZalebdnen, ramdenimegverds ver gavcdi._ batono aleqsandre, TanamedroveqarTuli mwerlobis ganviTarebasTu adevnebT Tvals?_ am kiTxvaze pasuxis gacema gami-Wirdeba. samwuxarod, TanamedroveqarTuli mwerlobis Semfaseblad vergamovdgebi, radgan axalgazr<strong>da</strong> avtorTaSemoqmedebas cu<strong>da</strong>d vicnob.erT xans aka morCilaZis wignebs aqtiuradvecnobodi, maintereseb<strong>da</strong>, radganmis nawarmoebebSi asaxuli garemonacnobi iyo CemTvis. is mZime periodi,romelsac avt<strong>ori</strong> Tavis teqstebSi mxatvrula<strong>da</strong>Rwers, mec mTel qarTulsazogadoebasTan erTad gamoviare...bolo sam weliwadSi Seqmnili nawarmoebebisgar<strong>da</strong>, mis yvela Txzulebebskargad vicnob._ internetgamocemebiT ramdenadsargeblobT?_ CemTvis kompiuterSi wignis kiTxvawarmoudgenelia. axla karg saSualebasmivageni – sasurvel literaturaskompania Amazon.com-is mier Seqmnilieleqtronuli sakiTxavis _ `indle~-ismeSveobiT vecnobi. mas qaRaldisfurclis efeqti aqvs <strong>da</strong> Tvals arRlis. Tu ar vcdebi, xuTi aTasamde wigniaqvT atvirTuli. samwuxarod, maTS<strong>ori</strong>s qarTuli nawarmoebebi ar aris.aTamde wigni avirCie <strong>da</strong> vkiTxulob.bolo ramdenime wlis ganmavlobaSixSirad miwev<strong>da</strong> mogzauroba, wignebisaqeT-iqiT tareba ki problema iyo.axla es sirTule moixsna. `indle"Zalian mosaxerxebeli ramaa. Tan, arcsaniSni mWirdeba, arc furcelimekargeba – yvelafers TviTon poulobs._ Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis<strong>da</strong>mTavrebis Semdeg swavlaamerikaSi gaagrZeleT... faqtobrivad,<strong>da</strong>savluri ganaTleba <strong>da</strong> muSaobis<strong>da</strong>savluri gamocdileba gaqvT. vfiqrob,iqaur mwerlobas axlos un<strong>da</strong>icnobdeT <strong>da</strong> albaT, Tqveni fav<strong>ori</strong>tiavtorebic gyavT..._ <strong>da</strong>savlur literaturas mar-Tlac kargad vicnob <strong>da</strong>, ra Tqma un<strong>da</strong>,fav<strong>ori</strong>tebic myavs, Tumca maT mimarTinteresi ucxoeTSi swavliTa <strong>da</strong> cxovrebiTar aris ganpirobebuli. skolisasakSic <strong>da</strong> universitetSi swavlisdrosac ucxoel avtorebs aqtiuradvecnobodi. <strong>da</strong>savluri literaturi<strong>da</strong>nrac ki rusulad iyo Targmnili <strong>da</strong>razec xeli mimiwvdebo<strong>da</strong>, yvelaferiwavikiTxe. erT xans periodul gamocemaSi_ `inostrannaia literatura" _Zalian kargi nawarmoebebi nawyvet-nawyvetibeWdebo<strong>da</strong>, Jurnalis TiToeulinomeri xeli<strong>da</strong>n xelSi ga<strong>da</strong>dio<strong>da</strong>...maxsovs, maSin wavikiTxe pirvelad kanadeliprozaikosis, artur heiliscnobili `sastumro~.roca amerikul mwerlobaze vlaparakobT,aucilebelia, namdvililiteraturisgan gavmijnoT isnawamoebebi, romelsac TviTmfrinaviTrvasaaTiani frenisas CaikiTxav. aseTavtorebs S<strong>ori</strong>s aris, magaliTad, denbrauni, stiven kingi <strong>da</strong> mravali sxva.es avtorebi manqanebs hgvanan <strong>da</strong>wignebs `acxoben~. ara<strong>da</strong>, maT gar<strong>da</strong>Zalian bevri saintereso mweralia...CemTvis erTnairad sayvarelia iaroslavhaSeki, karel Capeki, luiji pirandelo,o’henri... gavimeoreb, amgvari<strong>da</strong>mokidebuleba SeerTebulStatebSi yofniT ar aris gamowveuli.samwuxarod, Tanamedrove amerikulliteraturas, SesaZloa, marTlac bevradukeT vicnobde, vidre axalgazr<strong>da</strong>qarTvel mweralTa Semoqmedebas..._ Cveni gamomcemlebi mowadinebulniarian, rac SeiZleba meti qarTuladTargmnili wigni miawodonmkiTxvels, Tumca mxatvrul Tusamecniero-popularul literaturaSisaTargmni jer kidev bevria..._ Zalian bevri ramaa saTargmni.cxadia, imasac aqvs mniSvneloba, Turog<strong>ori</strong> xarisxis Targmanebi Sesruldeba.mTavaria, yvela wigni dedni<strong>da</strong>niTargmnebodes <strong>da</strong> ara rusuli<strong>da</strong>n,rogorc es adre xdebo<strong>da</strong>. cota xniswin erT Zalian saintereso ist<strong>ori</strong>ulnarkvevs gavecani, romelic Cingizxansa <strong>da</strong> Tanamedrove msofliosCamoyalibebas exeba. wigni monRoleTsa<strong>da</strong> CineTSi mopovebul aqamde ucnobmasalebsa <strong>da</strong> ist<strong>ori</strong>ul wyaroebsefuZneba, uzarmazari literaturaaga<strong>da</strong>muSavebuli. saqarTveloSi mon-Rolebs Cveni ist<strong>ori</strong>uli gadmosaxedi<strong>da</strong>nvicnobT, wigni<strong>da</strong>n ki bevri axaliram gavige am xalxze, am eris sxvamxareebi <strong>da</strong>vinaxe. naSromSi naCvenebi<strong>da</strong> Sefasebulia monRolTa roli kacobriobisganviTarebis saqmeSi, fostisa<strong>da</strong> saga<strong>da</strong>saxado sistemebis SeqmniT,Tavisufali ekonomikuri zonisideiT <strong>da</strong>wyebuli, Tanamedrove saxelmwifoebrivimowyobis principebisSemuSavebiT <strong>da</strong>mTavrebuli. Zaliansaintereso sakiTxavia.didi STabeWdileba moaxdinaxalid huseinis wignma `The Kite Runner~,romelic avRaneTs, mis problemebsexeba. mZime wasakiTxia. wigni 2002 welsgamoica. avtorma erTmaneTze ukeTesi<strong>ori</strong> nawarmoebi <strong>da</strong>wera. meores `AThausant Splendid Suns" hqvia. mas Semdeges mwerali sadRac gauCinar<strong>da</strong>. sa<strong>da</strong>ris dRes, wers Tu ara raimes – arvici. kargi iqnebo<strong>da</strong> am avt<strong>ori</strong>s Targmnac.aucilebelia, iTargmnos XIX saukunispatara siciliuri moTxrobebi<strong>da</strong> mTlianad, es literaturuli mimdinareoba_ italiuri novelebi.merwmuneT, saocari nawarmoebebia._ batono aleqsandre, Tbilisissaxelmwifo universitetisTvis ramdenadpri<strong>ori</strong>tetulia wignis popularizaciastudent-axalgazrdeb-Si, am mimarTulebiT Tu muSaobT <strong>da</strong>konkretul proeqtebs Tu anxorcielebT?_ ra Tqma un<strong>da</strong>, gvaqvs ramdenimeproeqti. Tanamedrove qarTul mwerlobazevsaubrobdiT <strong>da</strong>, meore welia,universitetSi Si<strong>da</strong> literaturulikonkursi _ `Semodgomis legen<strong>da</strong>" _imarTeba. SarSandel konkursSiZalian bevrma studentma miiRo monawileoba,maTgan aTi saukeTeso SeirCa.finali yvarlis tbaze gaimarTa, Jiurimkonkursantebs <strong>da</strong>valeba misca –garkveul Temaze moTxroba un<strong>da</strong> <strong>da</strong>eweraT...axla universitetTaS<strong>ori</strong>soliteraturuli proeqtis ganxorcielebagvin<strong>da</strong>, Tumca, ramdenad gamogvivaar vici. konkursSi monawileobismsurveli Zalian bevria..._ aRiarebuli avtorebi<strong>da</strong>n Tuaris iseTi, romlis mwerlobac armogwonT?_ Zalian ar miyvars koelio.mikvirs, mTeli msoflio ratom SeiSalamasze?! Tu mainc <strong>da</strong> mainc kolumbielmwerlebze un<strong>da</strong> vilaparakoT,mimaCnia, rom markesis pataramoTxrobebi koelios Stampirebulteqstebs asi TaviT sjobs <strong>da</strong> Se<strong>da</strong>rebacki ar SeiZleba. albaT, aseTi SefasebisTvismeuRle gaminawyendeba,radgan mas moswons koelio.esaubra Tamar Juruli
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